so let's bring in daniel morrison, who's in indigenous advocate. she joins me live from 23 territory in canada. hello there. daniel, thanks for being on this news out on the part didn't use the word genocide throughout his trip. and then right before flying out, he confirms it was a genocide went up. how do you interpret what he said? this is a very important acknowledgement. the pope differentiated between cultural genocide, an actual genocide which canada the state has yet to do the same. canada has referred to the any residential school system as cultural genocide, a term, but doesn't really bear any legal meeting under the un convention on genocide. so in addition to that, the way in which this was said is very critical. the pope made a statement in passing and it should be intentional. it should be sincere. the word genocide holds incredible weight and that should have been acknowledged sooner and for and of survivors and their families. not simply on a flight back to rome. speaking of that importance of language, why is that so important to vi

danielle morrison is a lawyer, an advocate for survivors. she says an admission of guilt from the catholic church, rather than an apology is what's needed. my dad was 6 years old when he went to residential school and i have a 8 year old daughter and i look at her and bake how devastating it would be to be separated from my, my child at that age, or at any age really. and there really is no way finding through this. it's been a difficult journey for many and it's triggering it deeply, deeply. traumatizing catholic church was the biggest church that was partaking, and all the reading of the residential schools. and they were the only school that didn't pay money that was promised to survivors. there are a large number of records that have yet to be released when it comes to abuse claim . and this puts a big barrier in the way of the healing for many survivors. who were abused and residential schools, and i mean, i understand why there is no admitting that guilt because it would open them up for a liability and international war crimes. essent

danielle morrison represents some of those indigenous communities. her father lived in a residential school. she says, an admission of guilt from catholic church would help heal the trauma, suffered by survivors. my, my dad was 6 years old when he went to residential school. and i have a 8 year old daughter. and i look at her and think how devastating it would be to be separated from my, my child at that age, or at any age really. and there really is no way finding through this. it's been a difficult journey for many and it's triggering it deeply, deeply traumatized thing. catholic church was the biggest church that was partaking, and all the writing of the residential schools. and they were the only school that didn't pay money. that was promised to survivors. there are a large number of records that have yet to be released when it comes to abuse claim . and this puts a big barrier in the way of the healing for many survivors who were abused and residential schools. and i mean, i understand why there is no admitting that guilt because it would open

i know how born a wound across that they have suffered with in some cases for generations or danielle morrison is an a nation. are bay lawyer and advocate from the treaty 3 territory of canada. she joins us from winnipeg, canada, thanks very much for being on the program. so put simply, do you think an apology is enough? personally speaking for me, i am a daughter of a residential school survivor and this is a very difficult question to answer. i'm also a lawyer and so i understand a lot of the legal complexities that come with looking at residential school as an active genocide. an apology for me is never going to be enough because how do you apologize for genocide if you can even admit it had actually occurred for many other survivors. this is a very important part of their healing journey. and i think that's the story that needs to be centered through all of it. and in what way do you think the catholic church could be held accountable then? while the catholic church was the biggest church that was partaking and all the reading of the residential schools and they were the only school that d