m from new york is daniel oberhaus, who covers energy issues and the future of energy for wired magazine. you opened a recent story about america's energy grid during the coronavirus pandemic by talking to daniel oberhaus. that niagara falls powerplant, what does a day in the life there look like right now? positive cases are up to --0, total cases 83,000 87,000 down to one county that .oes not have a covid case 12,000 people currently icuitalized, 3000 people in , 6000 patients discharged, of 1167 -- up 1167. 18,000.ey is that governor phil murphy has been a great partner to me and the people of this state. those lines between states often the calm walls, not with governor murphy and governor lamont. we are working together and will with neweratively jersey. california is taking up, michigan is ticking of, florida taking up, massachusetts, but no are.s anywhere near we 1900. of deaths, that number will continue to go up. that is people who have been on ventilators for a time. there go on a ventilator, is roughly a 20% chance you will come off. the longer you are on a come of the lower t

we will go back to daniel oberhaus.hat niagara falls powerplant, what does a day in the life there look like right now? guest: the powerplant is run by the new york power authority which is the largest utility in the united states. it provides about 25% of new york's power. it is -- a lot of it is hydroelectric. ago, the a few days power authority began to start checking workers when they came on site to screen them for coronavirus, which involves taking their temperature, a series of questions about travel, how they are feeling, and basically staggering the control room operators such that it limited contact between the two shifts. they operate on 12 hour shifts and so those were staggered between different control rooms to limit contact between workers and ensure there is always a full staff. in this case, it would be a minimal staff. only about four or five people in the operating room at a time to keep the lights on in new york city and new york state. host: in this age of working from home, how much can the energy

m from new york is daniel oberhaus, who covers energy issues and the future of energy for wired magazine.

to be in would suck the 0.00007% -- >> do you want to talk about is what gy grid, which daniel oberhaus is here to talk about? >> caller: no, i don't. i just wanted to get that point across. >> daniel in maryland. how's it going? >> caller: yeah, hi. i feel the same way as the last caller. mean, they're really overblowing this whole entire pandemic. you know, it's point -- i calculated just, you know, on my drive to work, .2. but i mean, it is still very low amount of people that are -- michael, out of curiosity, how many people would need to die for you to think it's not overblown? >> caller: well, i mean, we have seven billion people on the mraents. -- on the planet. people die all the time naturally. this is part of the natural order. mean, people die from the flu. the flu used to be considered the plague, you know, 600, 700 years ago. >> all right. that is michael in maryland. e'll try to steer back toward discussion about the energy grid. james in california. good morning. >> caller: good morning. pandemic whether the or an addendum to the power grid, whether or not the stadiums th