senator daniel patrick moynihan, who had been my professor at harvard, and i was his teaching assistanthe .as on my oral exam because of him, i became a judge. ofwe have got some videotape you from 1993 testifying. where would you have been? >> i can tell you exactly what i was doing, that day in fact. i was accompanying risk data ,its -- ruth bader ginsburg meeting with the senators on the hill. senator moynihan had asked me if i would work with her. she did not need any work because she was so fully prepared and everything. and i made every meeting with her that was scheduled except one, with barbara boxer, because the time i was opposed to meet with harbor boxer with then judge ginsburg, i was to testify before the joint committee on the organization of congress on matters of judicial and congressional relations. >> it is a short clip. let's watch you -- i guess this is 21 years ago. >> in the area of statute and the interpretation of statutes and the revision of statutes, we are so intimately involved with thinkther's processes, a it certainly makes sense, and certainly the constitu

i got a phd and worked and i got a phd, worked with james wilson and daniel patrick moynihan and richard neustadt, and then went to law school at yale. i am originally from new york. i am a product of the public schools in new york. so, going to those schools -- outside columbia as an undergraduate, going to those schools were really my first exposure outside of new york and got those degrees and then spent really a career before the bench trying to look at the workings of our institutions. and studied relations between the branches of government at the brookings institution and at georgetown. then because of senator daniel patrick moynihan, who had been my professor at harvard, and i was his teaching assistant, he was on my oral exam. because of him, i became a judge. >> we have got some videotape of you from 1993 testifying. where would you have been? >> i can tell you exactly what i was doing, that day in fact. i was accompanying ruth bader ginsburg, meeting with the senators on the hill. senator moynihan had asked me if i would work with her. she did not need any work because she was

>> guest: daniel patrick moynihan wrote about this in the 60s when they were in the low 20s. bill cosby is. barack obama needs to be more courageous and to talk about this and talk about also what's happening in the hispanic community. i talk about in my book it is supremely important. >> host: what groups among the hispanics have assimilated in the wrong way and maintained that traditional family? >> guest: i would say that they need improvement across the board. if you look at mexican-americans in new mexico, the family structure i think has held pretty well. >> and they are the oldest. >> i call it our mexican founding fathers that have been there since the 16 hundreds. they talk about it from the 17 hundreds. all of us have faced the problem that assimilation is no longer emphasized by the schools and institutions into the army. hollywood does anything it can to tear down the idea. by the way, assimilation does not mean abandoning. i'm very proud of my cube and ancestors and i'm proud of what they did in the cuban culture. >> host: often times it is a reaffirmation. >> gu

. >> guest: this is what the used against daniel patrick moynihan. he wrote about this in the '60s when the out of wedlock birth rate of african-american journey was in the low '20s. it's now 72%, and he was -- bill cosby is pilloried. barack obama needs to be more courageous a talk about this and talk about also what is happening in the hispanic -- i talk about in my book, "a race for the future" it is important. >> host: which group of the various subgroups among hispanics has, let's say, assimilated in the wrong way the least if you well and maintained that traditional family? >> guest: i would say that all groups need improvement across the board. if you look at mexicans americans in new mexico, their family structure i think has held pretty well hosting and these mexicans americans are the oldest of the mexican-americans. >> guest: i call it our mexican founding fathers to they have been there since the 1600s. they have land deeds, possibly talk about their land these from the 1700s. >> host: so cliven bundy is not the only one who is land issue

and i got a phd, worked with james wilson and daniel patrick moynihan and richard neustadt, and then went to law school at yale. i am originally from new york. i am a product of the public schools in new york. so, going to those schools -- outside columbia as an undergraduate, going to those schools were really my first exposure outside of new york and got those degrees and then spent really a career before the bench trying to look at the workings of our institutions. and studied relations between the branches of government at the brookings institution and at georgetown.

and i got a phd, worked with james wilson and daniel patrick moynihan and richard neustadt, and thenent to law school at yale. i am originally from new york. i am a product of the public schools in new york. so, going to those schools -- outside columbia as an undergraduate, going to those schools were really my first exposure outside of new york and got those degrees and then spent really a career before the bench trying to look at the workings of our institutions. and studied relations between the branches of government at the brookings institution and at georgetown. then because of senator daniel patrick moynihan, who had been my professor at harvard, and i was his teaching assistant, he was on my oral exam. because of him, i became a judge. >> we have got some videotape of you from 1993 testifying. where would you have been? >> i can tell you exactly what i was doing, that day in fact. i was accompanying ruth bader ginsburg, meeting with the senators on the hill. senator moynihan had asked me if i would work with her. she did not need any work because she was so fully prepared an

people talk about making the distinction between you know for example daniel patrick moynihan and we have talked about. >> host: who considered himself to be liberal. >> guest: when he went back to the city became more of a liberal when he worked as a bureaucrat. let's talk about the things that will help my thing. one is to explain what has happened with liberal policies and to hispanic families. you know we must be doing better and we should be doing better. so explain that an say this is no panacea for you. by the way if you are cuban liberalism, marxism destroyed your home country and if you are mexican-american statism and you know the corporatism for so many years in the 20th century kept mexico poorer than it needed to be because mexico has a lot of oil. these things need to be explained. we also have to say here are the policies. we have policies that will help the families stay together. we have families that will help the family so you don't have to have this cliff effects that a single mother faces when she looks at either a promotion or getting a job or marrying a good ma