daniel perez had predicted each of their deaths and each had juicy life insurance policies. llion were made to commune members perez controlled. >> reporter: and it seemed, whenever the coffers were running low, someone would die, and there would be a big insurance payoff. was it that, bold faced a pattern, marc? >> oh, absolutely. yeah. i mean the, get down into the less than $10,000 in the account, sometimes less than $5,000, and then that's around the time somebody was gonna die. >> reporter: and with that explanation, the das summed up their case against 55 year old daniel perez. >> it's a story of domination, control and manipulation. of the most vulnerable. it spans 15 years, multiple victims, multiple deaths, multiple life insurance policies, and he moves through several states so that he can satisfy his own sexual appetite. >> "we do call daniel perez." >> reporter: daniel perez was about to take the stand and tell the court that it had all been a big misunderstanding. next, you'll hear him speak directly to us. >> coming up. >> mr. perez i have heard you described as

let's break down the headlines, daniel strauss with the guardian newspaper and laura barone loca with politico. good morning to both of you. laura, you have a piece out on perezhairman of the dnc and because of a whole host of things, you know, some folks are saying he's got to go. you need new leadership. >> that's right. i have -- there is congressman thompson who said they feel his leadership is nonexistent and iowa on top of other host of issues that have led to this is why they think it is time for him to step down. but the number of party chairs as well as iowa democrats have vented frustration because they feel as though perez left troy price, the chair of the iowa democratic party, pretty much out to dry, just left him to handle this on his own and there was a phone call earlier this week between party chairs and they were very upset with dnc officials on it saying how come perez wasn't side by side with price? perez's team maintains that he was updated hourly, that they sent staff on the ground to help with the aftermath, but there is growing frustration among democrats nationally. >> this is not the kind of infighting you want. we were at the dnc, t