our first panelist is daniel reisner. can you please come up, a partner at the her zog law office. he joined in 2008 as the firm's public international law, security, and defense partner, recognized as one of israel's leading public law experts, 19 years in the field, 10 of which he served as head of the israel national law department. he was the senior lawyer responsible for advising the israeli leadership. i hope you can advise us on this issue as well. i would like to invite the director, mary wareham, human rights watch advocacy against particularly problematic weapons that pose significant threats to civilians. she is also serving as the global coordinate of the campaign to stop killer robots, one of the people i quoted earlier on the uk brimstone. she worked for the vietnam veterans of america foundation, assisting jodie williams and coordinating the international campaign to ban land mines, co-laureate of the 1997 peace prize. finally, general. general panwar. he served in the corps of signals indian army. he retired after 40 years of active military service in the corps of

daniel reisner from israel. my question is, when you mentioned a phrase, you mentioned old frameworks, when discussing this issue. one of my questions relates to one of the oldest frameworks we're using, which is the concept of the state in the framework of the discussion. because we all realize that we've globalized every element of the discussion. the data, in spite of localization efforts, is global. companies hold data. the same piece of information is split between two or three different locations on the same server. and some of my clients are split up over different continents. you don't actually get the same piece of data in any one location anywhere. the company holding the data is actually a multi-structure and sits in 25 different locations as well. and so on the one hand, the data is globalized. the players are globalized. that raises the question, what is the role of the state? i give you an example which i faced relatively recently in israel. the israeli government decided -- called me up one day an

daniel reisner from israel. my question is, when you mentioned a phrase, you mentioned old frameworks, when discussing this issue. one of my questions relates to one of the oldest frameworks we're using, which is the concept of the state in the framework of the discussion. because we all realize that we've globalized every element of the discussion. the data, in spite of localization efforts, is global. companies hold data. the same piece of information is split between two or three different locations on the same server. and some of my clients are split up over different continents. you don't actually get the same piece of data in any one location anywhere. the company holding the data is actually a multi-structure and sits in 25 different locations as well. and so on the one hand, the data is globalized. the players are globalized. that raises the question, what is the role of the state? i give you an example which i faced relatively recently in israel. the israeli government decided -- called me up one day an