she's interviewed by danielle belten. >> barack obama got nominated for president, of course, and then, you know, our political climate has totally changed. so, you know, i think for me it was the idea that the american dream maybe is possible for black americans, and maybe it wasn't created for us, you know, this idea that you can do better than your parents if you just work hard enough, it doesn't matter, your lot this life. but, you know, it just, it doesn't seem like that's actually the reality even now. and i they's a really profoundly -- i think that's a really profoundingly disappointing thing for me. >> watch this evening on c-span2. [inaudible conversations] >> i want to thank everyone for coming out today. i will just ask you to silence your phones, and then today we are going to be having maya rao, who's going to be talking about her new -- closer? okay. talking about her new book, "great american outpost." she is a writer with the "minneapolis star tribune." she's had works appear in the atlantic, the owl, the "philadelphia inquirer", long reach and other publications. let'