danielle gilbert. thanks for having me. the truth between israel and how mazda is given, gotten some respite from the finding an environment here now from one extended family that made its way to a guys and beach for a visit. that was all too brief. a chance to breeze without the smoking stench of war. there is space at this beach for the also time family. so different from their space at a facility for displaced guidance. for a brief moment in time, children can play the fear of violence set aside. but not for their parents reflecting on who and what has been lost since the october 7th tomas terror attacks on his real that spurred massive is really retaliation planned on the head us and we came to the beach to take a breather. then to change the depressing and polluted environment where in an hour, then people come to the beach to relax, to swim for the children, to have fun, take food with them. but we're sorry, depressed. we're on the beach, but we want to cry for you. one family member though, has finally gotten a chanc

bringing our guests back in now, danielle gilbert and mark ginsberg. can we start with you, the news we were hearing, it is not confirmed but it is believed that three americans including a three—year—old girl could be among those who have been released. the earlier you said it is easier to negotiate the release of women and young children like this. it is amazing to think or incredible to think that they have been held all this time. it to think that they have been held all this time.— held all this time. it is unbelievable - held all this time. it is unbelievable and - held all this time. it is| unbelievable and quite held all this time. it is - unbelievable and quite rare held all this time. it 3 unbelievable and quite rare in fact when we think about the context of other hostagetaking attacks. i know it sounds crass to talk about this as research in detail and data but armed groups typically do not kidnap women and children and that is because captivity is incredibly hard and so holding vulnerable hostages, people who need extra care, people who nee

earlier, i spoke to danielle gilbert, assistant professor of political science at northwestern universitymer us ambassador to morocco marc ginsberg. this is wonderful news for families and am cautiously optimistic but there is a lot to be done before they are home safe and sound but it is really wonderful news for israel and for the families of the hostages tonight. for the families of the hostaaes toniaht. �* ,. , ,., ., hostages tonight. ambassador, our hostages tonight. ambassador, your thoughts? _ hostages tonight. ambassador, your thoughts? mixed - hostages tonight. ambassador, | your thoughts? mixed emotions because on _ your thoughts? mixed emotions because on the _ your thoughts? mixed emotions because on the one _ your thoughts? mixed emotions because on the one hand, - your thoughts? mixed emotions because on the one hand, over| your thoughts? mixed emotions| because on the one hand, over a month_ because on the one hand, over a month into — because on the one hand, over a month into this conflict, only about— month into this conflict, only about 50 _ month into this conflict, o

my colleague caitriona perry spoke to danielle gilbert, assistant professor of political science at northwesternhe's an expert in hostage diplomacy. thank you so much forjoining us on bbc news. the development today that the truce is to be extended for two more days, more hostages set to be released, what is your reading on how negotiations are progressing at this time? it is wonderful _ progressing at this time? it is wonderful news _ progressing at this time? it 3 wonderful news that both sides have come to the table and agreed to extend a pause in fighting for another couple of days. that means more hostages will be coming home, more palestinian detainees will be released, and there will be a temporary pause in the hostilities in gaza and more aid coming in, that is so needed for the palestinian civilians there. so this is really wonderful news all around. both sides have continued to leave things on the table but they hope the other side would be able to provide and i hope they can continue to return to the negotiating table, to continue seeing all these positive outcomes for their populatio

and magnanimously, gilbert of the fort daniel mcdonald, mislaid, they will have 3 people up to us on the crane and on the us side to it. i don't see it. such people exist, but i didn't get a chance to quite finish the remark about the billed article. the they have agreed that if you claim cannot hold up consent and entrance negotiations, then they would be content with the pros and cons. but the idea of approaching conflict has been floated united states repeatedly over the last month or 2 and it so, and it's dealt with is if it's a natural thing to happen because we all know that they are at an impasse and that's no one has won the war, well that observation is strictly one of the of the washington line. it doesn't correspond to reality on the ground and it has the needs that behind it, the concept, what's words about which is no way to take someone took out rushes own definition of this objectives, not america's definition of what is subject to should be its own definition of objectives are to destroy the ukrainian harm forces and not to cease territory. this is not a territorial w