msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos is at the federal courthouse in new york joining us.ant to bring our viewers up to date. there is some breaking news from insides courthouse. the defense just finished speaking, and just to give a sense of some of what was said, the defense argued no other defendant would be treated in this fashion. cohen had the misfortune of being counsel to the president, the defense asking for mercy saying he did cooperate. he made a personal and rational decision for personal and family decisions not to be in the glare of the spotlight for years, and that is why -- and this is of course, sort of a summary of what was said -- that is why he did cooperate with prosecutors. the defense wrapped up by saying he's, quote, a very good man. the special counsel now beginning to speak, so danny, what do you make of what we heard from the defense or what the court heard? >> reporter: this is a standard argument by the defense. congress has instructed the courts to avoid unwarranted sentencing disparities, so it's incumbent upon defense counsel to demonstrate

danny cevallos. >> i don't know who that is for? for me? >> just wondering because you are there near the door, and we oknow that he just came out, and i did not see him get into the car myself, but i think that he has probably left the scene. we saw the security there, and we don't expect to hear now from him or his attorneys at the courthouse at least, correct? >> that is right. he just walked out and his family went first and they got into the car and he left first and his attorneys followed him and crossed the street where we are standing and saying that they won't make a comment right now. so, there is going to be no comment. i am quite confident that both his attorneys who i worked with in the southern district of new york, and also michael cohen, himself, and the family are quite disappointed with this sentence. it was a somber tone and somber expression they all had as they walked out of the courthouse where michael cohen faces 36 monthses in prison and the surrender date of march 6th, and he can voluntarily surrender to the facilit

interviewed and i happen to know he follows me on twitter danny blanchflower he was a member of the bank of england's monetary policy committee he responded and jumped in the entire point of q e was to raise asset prices from someone who knows and voted for it presses coppola then went silent on this she didn't respond any further to this but here is an actual central banker and she her or her position in this debate have been that there's no sense there's no inflation there's nowhere you look can you see inflation the central banks need to print more maybe that's what she wants or like that there's no sign of inflation even though we see the unrest in france that we see on the rest across europe this is a result of this these are the people who are complaining about purchasing power when your income has not increased when certainly not at the pace that house prices your basic fundamental needs you know you need a house you need shelter you need food if those prices go up faster than your income. if you feel anger and here he is saying the entire point of q.e. was to raise asset prices a

pop fans and so danny kim he's one of the creators of dk dk t.v. that's a you tube channel where you can watch as video series k. pop explained by korean in toronto canada michelle cho an assistant professor of east asian popular cultures at the university of toronto she is the author of how you two point zero the korean wave in the age of social media and in new york born kim she is the creator of the band known as e.x.p. edition welcome all of you to the stream i want to start with a member of our community who pitched the idea for today show all the way from new zealand anthony sent us a video comment on why he thinks this is an important topic why i like. playing and the. music coming out of south korea or. the. critical. twice for the cold one. you mentioned to staver group there and if you're not familiar take a look at my screen here twice remember its profile this is a fan paid to their danny talk to us about k. pop what makes k. pop hip hop what makes it distinctively different from other forms of musical entertainment. well to do to defin

to the next level of capitalism in a post carbon world this is what danny blanchflower is suggesting let's say you've got a bar let's say bill gates is now worth a sixty billion yes let's say there's a bar of sixty people in that bar the average wealth of the people not bars is a billion dollars so bland for saying i'm going to walk into the bar i want to give bill gates another sixty billion dollars yes and now the average wealth of the poorest two billion dollars that's exactly what central bankers did is they they gave it to the likes of bill gates and hoped that he would distribute it to people in need and tell him to say we're successful because the average wealth of everybody is just going up but the their i mean spendable well the way things happen is bill gates's wealth went up sixty billion dollars and this equivalent all of wall street and the elite and what you do is you start to justify you deserved it that's something immediately good about you makes you worthy of this and so it doesn't trickle down because you're like those people should just get a job you know they'll

joining me now is danny savales.g to you. >> good morning. >> do you agree prosecutors are trying to build the narrative and second, is it tclear that trump defrauded voters? >> for the first time the government has taken the position and made this statement that michael cohen committed election law crimes at the direction of and in coordination with individual one, who everybody knows is the president. prior to that day, michael cohen had stood up in court and said the same thing. but there was no indication that the government would endorse that so explicitly as they did just this last week. >> and danny, do you need to prove intent when it comes to an accusation of defrauding voters? >> that's an interesting law. most of the time, in many criminal laws, recklessness is enough. as long as you consciously disordered a risk, you can be held criminally liable. this particular law requires a knowing and willful violation. knowledge not just about your conduct, but that what you're doing is contrary to the law. that's a

danny, -- or it will be in fact.t aftere that a rough mark carney, head of the bank of , showed a huge recession in the u.k.. then, a week later, his predecessor as head of the boe, says it would g -- be a just -- be just a little hiccup. who is right here? about fiscal wrong austerity saying it would have no effect on output. mark carney is fundamentally right, but he really did make a mistake and everybody picked up on it. if you have a brexit which takes place on the first of april 2019 and you have no deals in place, the airline stop, the border stop, the food and medicine does not getting, and the government will stockpile porta potty's going into derby because of the huge line of traffic. the problem he came out with the generated this hysteria was to say that you have a big increase in unemployment rate, and it looks like the great recession. how the mpc response is to raise rates from this two basis points -- from 50 basis points to 550 basis points. i put my hand up and said i would not be voting for that. t

it's an insult like us, great work from the likes of tom waits and danny glover.ery much worth robert redford's career. if you look back to british custody and sundance kid, we've seen him doing collins and robberies. i thought it was lovely, really charming with a bit of an edge to it. his character does this stuff, apparently, because he is in love with it. summary said, why is he smiling all the time? because he she seems to enjoy what he is doing. it is very gentle but it has real substance. you really believe in those characters. i smiled the way through. a fitting tribute to a great film career? he has said never say never and i'm sure he'll will have a million authors. it is a great not to end on because it is such a great film. sorry to bother you do? from director bruce o'reilly. a serial satire set in an alternative presence. there is a young man struggling for rent. he ta kes a young man struggling for rent. he takes a job with telemarketing and he is told by danny glover who is his workmate, your problem is you need to use your white voice. he says the

it's an ensemble cast, great work from the likes of tom waits and danny glover. is, kind of gotten special feel to it, of got a special feel to it, weeding back to butch cassidy and the sundance kid, we've seen him doing this before and that thejust some of that stuff from his back catalogue, very cleverly. i just thought it was lovely. really charming, it's got a bit of an edge to it and the whole thing about it is his character does the stuff because it's kind of in love with that. it's kind of addicted to it. why is he smiling all the time? because he seems to enjoy what he's doing. it's very gentle but it's not fluff, it's very gentle but there is real substance to it and you really believe those characters and i thought it was wonderful. i smiled the whole way through. it is his last film, it's a fitting tribute to a great film career. yeah, and never say never, you know, the fact is i'm sure he'll have a but it would be a great note to end on, it is such a great film. sorry to bother you. it is basically this kind of surreal satire, set in an alternative pr

it's an ensemble cast, great work from the likes of tom waits and danny glover. of got a special feel to it, look back to butch cassidy and the sundance kid, we've seen him doing this before and that the just some of that stuff from his back catalogue, very cleverly. i just thought it was lovely. really charming, it's got a bit of an edge to it and the whole thing about it is his character does the stuff because it's kind of in love with that. it's kind of addicted to it. why is he smiling all the time? because he seems to enjoy what he's doing. it's very gentle but it's not fluff, it's very gentle but there is real substance to it and you really believe those characters and i thought it was wonderful. i smiled the whole way through. it is his last film, it's a fitting tribute to a great film career. yeah, and never say never, you know, the fact is i'm sure he'll have a million offers to do something else. but it would be a great note to end on, it is such a great film. sorry to bother you. it is basically this kind of surreal satire, set in an alternative presen

i think that's where we're going with this. >> danny, your final thought on that as well? how much do you feel like you understood the mueller probe today more so than yesterday. >> i think no one understands the mueller probe more so today than yesterday or the day before that. two pieces of evidence suggest to me that mueller isn't quite done yet, one is the flynn sentencing memo and all the redactions. and today you have the unredacted, redactions which suggests there's still investigation that needs to be protected. for that reason while mueller may be sort of wrapping it up in the grand scheme of things there remains a significant amount of investigation to be done. >> i'm going to let you guys take a breath, read some of these memos. i know you want to read them yourself rather than having tom and i read them to you. i get that. digest it a little bit. if more comes we'll be back to you. let me bring in the political side of this discussion, carol lee, cornell belcher. and danielle pletka. welcome all. let's talk about the new things we learned today, carol. and the

joining us now danny sovalas, and frank figliuzzi, and msnbc national security analyst.because you're sitting here in studio, those are just some of the developments in this week. and if it wasn't shut down day, if it wasn't a shut down debate in the last couple of days, this would be full of opportunities here to discuss what happened this week. what stood out the most and again we didn't cover it all here. >> the punitive attorney general bar submitted a memorandum unsolicited essentially saying that the president cannot be investigated or prosecuted for obstruction of justice, that the interpretation of the obstruction statute is no good, and it doesn't hold legal water, which is astounding because nobody asked for it. >> yeah. >> and the other part of that is was this an audition for the job of attorney general, a role that this, that barr had already held under a previous president, so initially, many of us thought, he's certainly qualified. >> was it a flag up the pole, hey look at me. >> you would think somebody who already had the position might be above that. at

let's start with you, danny. three years is not a small sentence for a guy who did cooperate. >> that's true. he didn't cooperate as that term is used in the southern district of new york. cooperation's a term of art. he is given substantial assistance. on the other hand, both the southern district of new york and the office of the special counsel acknowledged that cohen was helpful. he provided information but it didn't rise to that level of substantial assistance warranting that precious 5k-1 motion as it's called which can have a downward affect on a defendant's sentence. the gambit for cohen may have paid off in his mind because he was unwilling to cross whatever red line he didn't provide additional information and gotten him assistance. perhaps the time without the cooperation motion was worth it in the end. but a sentence of 36 months ends up being right around the median and the national average for similarly situated defendants. so in this case, while michael cohen wanted straight probation or technicall

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joining us to talk more, danny cevalos and welcome to you. danny, why all the secrecy?> it's the same assy grand jury matter. there must be secrecy. what's different in this case is the magnitude of the secrecy. you may close a federal courtroom if there's a grand jury proceeding or a matter before it. however, it is exceedingly rare to close down an entire floor and even perhaps more rare for an entire supreme court proceeding to be sealed in its entirety. you may have redactions. you may have sealed documents but to have the entire case sealed from public view is a rarity, indeed. maybe unprecedented. >> jessica, this has a lot of people guessing as to what this could actually be about considering the rarity of it all. what do you make of it? >> what i make of it is exactly what you said in the introduction. the scope of what we don't know is much broader than we do. >> what is it? >> exactly. we are waiting for this with more anticipation than most kids on christmas eve. so what is it? i mean, there's wild speculation. is it deutsche banc? is it a russian-controlled

ensemble cast, great work from the likes of tom waits and danny glover.t a feel to it that chimes very much with redford's screen career. if you look back to butch cassidy and the sundance kid and the sting, we've seen him doing cons and robberies in the movies and some stuff from his back catalogue is used very cleverly. i thought it was lovely, it was charming, it had an edge to it and his character does this stuff because he is kind of in love with it, and enjoys it. why is he smiling all the time? he seems to enjoy what he is doing. it's very gentle but it's not fluff. it has real substance. you really believe in those characters. i thought it was wonderful. i smiled. never say never, he will have a million offers to do something else but it will be a great note to end on because it's such a great film. sorry to bother you, it is a surreal satire set in an alternative present oakland. a young man struggling to make rent. he takes a job with telemarketing and is told by danny glover again, who is his workmate, your problem is you need to use your white

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danny savage, bbc news, hull.h me and some of the team on twitter. i'm @babitabbc now on bbc news, sport today. hello, i'm chetan pathak and this is sport today, live from the bbc sport centre. coming up on the programme: european football's finest, discover their fate in the draw for the last 16 of the champions league. al ain look to become the first ever side from the uae to reach the club world cup final, but they'll have to get past river plate. and the clash of the captains, kohli and payne face off as australia close in on victory against india in the second test. —— paine. thanks forjoining us. welcome to the programme. real madrid will have to beat ajax if they're to keep alive their hopes of winning a record fourth champions league title in a row. the draw for the last 16 was made on monday, with plenty of intriguing ties alongside that one. cristiano ronaldo will head back to spain whenjuventus take on atletico madrid. he'll no doubt be looking forward to it, having scored 22 goals against atletico duri

danny's absolutely right. often times cooperators are -- their testimony is confirmed by corroborating evidence, other witnesses, which we seem to have here. and often times documentary evidence which can be very powerful. cooperators do have that baggage, as danny mentioned, federal prosecutors are able to convince juries, despite that baggage that in this moment, before the jury the cooperator despite past lies is telling the truth. it's also the case that corroborating evidence makes the corroborator look like he or she is telling the truth, that's typically enough for jurors. >> our last question, propublica, the trump administration may have overcharged trump's inaugural committee for meals, events. ivanka trump was at the center of those negotiations. this comes as the wall street journal is reporting that federal prosecutors are investigating whether the inaugural committee misspent those funds. they're probing top donors who gave money in exchange for access to the administration. if this is all true,

danny savage, bbc news, buxton. now on bbc news — sport today.ort today, live from the bbc sport centre. coming up on this programme: simply the best. real madrid and croatia superstar luka modric wins the ballon dor to cap a remarkable year for the midfielder. var's coming early to the champions league. we'll give you all the details from uefa's decision day in dublin. how's about that? some sunshine australia — an aussie teenager smashes six sixes in an over on his way to a double century. hello and thanks for joining us on sport today. it's official, luka modric is the best football player on the planet, having been crowned the best fifa men's player back in september, he won the 63rd edition of the ballon d'or at a glitzy ceremony in paris on monday, where jo curry was watching. you have to go all the way back to 2007 for the last time there was a winner of the ballon d'or who was called cristiano ronaldo or lionel murphy. now luka modric has broken that a decade of dominance. and after his performances in 2018 it is easy to see why he was th

it's an ensemble cast, great work from the likes of tom waits and danny glover.o butch cassidy and the sundance kid, we've seen him doing this before and that the just some of that stuff from his back catalogue, very cleverly. i just thought it was lovely. really charming, it's got a bit of an edge to it and the whole thing about it is his character does the stuff because it's kind of in love with that. it's kind of addicted to it. why is he smiling all the time? because he seems to enjoy what he's doing. it's very gentle but it's not fluff, it's very gentle but there is real substance to it and you really believe those characters and i thought it was wonderful. i smiled the whole way through. it is his last film, it's a fitting tribute to a great film career. yeah, and he said never say never, you know, the fact is i'm sure he'll have a million offers to do something else. but it would be a great note to end on, it is such a great film. sorry to bother you. it is basically this kind of surreal satire, set in an alternative present oakland. there is a young man w

let me start with you, danny. in your mind, why all of the secrecy? why do you think it is? >> it is to preserve the grand jury secrecy, that's the overriding for factor here. but because it involves robert mueller's investigation, take factor is multiplied by another factor, and that's why you have the extremely rare occasion of closing off an entire floor of a courthouse. the rules of procedure require secrecy in grand jury proceedings, but when it is this important they have to take extraordinary steps to protect that secrecy. >> robert, "politico" talked about this a little bit and sort of reflecting pete's reporting from the story you saw, saying when the case was argued at the d.c. circuit last week, the courtroom was closed to the public. court personnel went to unusual lengths to preserve the secrecy, ortderring journalists to leave the floor where lawyers were presenting their position. that's obviously not standard operating procedure. what do you understand about the importance of this thing? >> listen, i agree with our guest. it analogize it to christmas for a la

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danny can speak to this. we've all seen rudy giuliani. first of all, it starts with the client. he's unmanageable. >> that's because they can't get anybody on the a-team to represent them. >> but given who they have, they don't appear to have lawyers who know what is being turned over to the special counsel and prosecutors. they didn't know their own white house counsel was meeting with the special counsel and potentially incriminating the president. >> there's a great piece in "the washington post" about the degree to which this is weighing on the republican party. we have a new chief of staff coming in, an acting chief of staff. >> another one. >> another one. >> the third in two years. how much of this is going to occupy his time, you think, having to deal with this? having to quiet this so that political capital isn't spent, if not entirely, mostly on this issue? >> so we know that it's occupying trump's mind, because he's telling us over and over again, that this is the only thing that he can think about. and we see that when you're juggling ten plates in the air, that you

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(danny) it's time to get yours! (vo) quickbooks. backing you.e back we continue my conversation with alan patricof obviously we had a tough end of year 2018 with the markets up and down again with these wild boosted that impact funding of small companies that impact your ability or desire to invest in the early-stage companies? . >> the private market venture and equity is almost impervious to talk to an entrepreneur and say the market has been down 20 percent in the last two months he's out raising money for two months in the valuation was $50 million he doesn't want to hear what you have to say and as a result those markets hang up there and it takes a good amount of time before the reality sets in the have to be out there raising money then it will be reflected. it does not go down with the public markets go down so that hasn't happened. >> one of the reasons we see a big slate of ipo was all the money flashing around venture capital included these companies wanting to go public next year continue to rise and in 218191 companies it was up 32

. >> yeah, i'm putting that on danny. >> it's all on you, danny. then there's also the question of the statute of limitations, right? because if he is reelected as president of the united states, that statute of limitations could run out. >> yes and no. take, for example, federal crimes generally have a statute of limitations of five years. but under conspiracy law, that clock doesn't start running until the last act of the conspiracy. so anything that may have happened, say, in the last year could still be an indictable crime after the president leaves office. assuming he's only a one term presumption, whi president, which is a big assumption. the government may not need to deal with the thorny issue of whether or not a sitting president may be indicted if they can find a way to indict him after he leaves office within the statute. >> i got, like, nine more pages of questions here, everybody. i've been off for 16 weeks. we have a lot more to talk about. my panel is sticking around for me. >>> coming up, a shakeup at the white house. john kelly is

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what do we make of that, danny? >> a judge must, not may, must put a factual basis for a plea on the record. oftentimes defendants will accept a guilty plea and then when it comes time to speak to the judge will waffle. they're essentially say something to the effect of, well, i pleaded guilty but i don't think i'm guilty. i just did it because i think it was a great deal or i'm looking at zero to six months and i don't want to do any prison time. that does not work, and that's what we're seeing here with general flynn, michael flynn. it's the same thing, essentially, only he did it after his guilty plea. his attorneys argued in a memorandum that essentially not for nothing, but i didn't really do this. so naturally the judge -- that's an east coast phrase, that's specific to new jersey, really -- so the judge is saying, look, i have an obligation to put a factual basis for your plea, and if you are pleading guilty and accepting this deal because you just like deals and not because you're actually guilty, then i got

. >>> danny cevallos. does the mueller investigation move forward if there's no interview or could the president face a s&p later on? >> it's highly likely that rudy giuliani has been having this conversation about whether or not the president should sit down with special counsel robert mueller's team these past few months because he's gone back and forth about the possibility of a sit-down with mueller. but in reality he doesn't have to. if nod, we have to to. that's what a subpoena is. it's forcing someone to come down. the real question is whether or not a sitting president can be subpoenaed for his testimony. that remains an open question. >> he says mueller should be investigating whether he covered up and destroyed evidence. do you think mueller could face an investigation as giuliani is saying? >> it clouds the issues. if there's a criminal daytona rudy giuliani was defending, he might have a claim that they have to turn over exculpatory evidence. that's not where we with are there is indeed a case.

in that case on the payments that danny was just detailing and michael cohen's tax fraud. with respect to the special counsel's case what they have brought that's focused on rodrigurussia related matters and the lies to congress. one thing to point out that's been lost in this a little bit is while jeffrey berman was appointed by president trump, he was recused from this case. so in other words, he is not in charge of prosecuting it. that falls on his deputy so it's not berman per se that's quarterbacking this. but on the other hand -- >> not the democrats that the president is talking about. >> exactly. that's most important to your point is that this is not led by democratic members of congress. this is something that has to hold up to the rules of evidence, a court. this is something to be presented through the normal criminal process so this is not something led by a committee. >> here's what i don't get. either people cooperate with robert mueller and hoping to get a lighter sentence or not and holding out and hoping to get pardoned. where are the innocent parties her

danny, on the other hand, says he reached over and sucked the l d out of the snake wound on my arm.u imagine if it was on his balls?" you know. [ laughter ] i said, "danny" -- i mean, what he'll do for a joke, i don't know. you know? [ laughter ] >> seth: so none of this is true? >> no, no, i mean, he was there when the snake bit me, you >> seth: didn't do anything, though? >> he didn't do nothing. [ laughter >> seth: you're also in a fantastic film, "american president." y h. >> seth: and that, indirectly -- [ cheers and applause ] a wonderful -- a great movie. >> thank you. >> seth: i guess indirectly, or clen directly, led to you meeting presidenton at the time. >> right. >> seth: how did that go? what was your first meeting with him like? >> well, that was pretty cool. because in the movie, remember there's a ene at the white house where i'm having dinner for the french president in the movie. and i meet annette bening and sort of fall in love.si abouor seven months after the picture is over, i get an invitation to go to the whe house for a dinner wit president chirac of france.

you know. [ laughter ] i said, "danny" -- i mean, wh joke, i don't know. you know?o none of this is true? >> no, no, mean, he was there when the snake bit me, you know. >> seth: didn't do anything, though? >> he didn't do erthing. [ laug >> seth: you're also in a fantastic film, "american president." >> yeah. >> seth: and that, indirectly -- [ cheers and awolause ] erful -- a great movie. >> thank you. i >> setuess indirectly, or even directly, led to you meeting president clinton at the time. >> right. seth: how did that go? what was your first meeting with him like? >> well, that was pretty cool. because in the moviember there's a scene at the white house where i'm having dinner for the french esident in the movie. and i meet annette band sort of fall in love. about six or seven months after the picture is over, i get an invitationo go to the white house for a dinner with president chirac of france. and i thought, "well, these guys are pretty cool." and they come up, and before yom go in for the dinner, there's a reception line with president clinton, mrs. clinton

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attorney for southern district andrew goldman and danny cevallos. you put your coffee down, turn your volume up and try to understand what just happened. ken, for anybody who has just joined us, who hasn't been with us for the twists and turns of this over the last 90 minutes or so, what happens happened and is this a good or bad day for michael flynn? >> it's not clear. the hearing did not go well for michael flynn and that's why we are where we are. in that sense it's a bad day. although he's not in jail so it's a somewhat good development for him. there was certainly the threat of that. to back up, judge emmitt sullivan began this hearing by tearing into the flynn side about that filing you just referenced where he seemed to be suggesting that he was trapped by the fbi into lying, that he wasn't put on notice it was a crime to lie to federal agents and that, therefore, mitigated the crime to which he pled guilty and the judge immediately began questioning flynn as to whether he was really pleading guilty, whether he acknowledged his guilt. flynn

danny, can a sitting president be indicted? >> well, there is no yes or no. >> lawyers never say yes or no. >> we do not. we do not as a rule. i would say generally no, though i'm probably in the minority. strangely enough i may be in the minority on this but also in accordance with current doj regulations. >> doj regulations are not the law. they can change at any time. if there was a regulation how would that override the fact that no person is above the law? >> i would point to two pieces of evidence. first is the language of the constitution which appears to imply a sitting president would first be impeached, then tried, convicted, then removed and then thereafter he can be subject to criminal prosecution. it doesn't, pli explicitly say , but it implies that. the president is the only person in the entire government that if you arrest him and put him in jail, you arrest the entire executive branch. many people say wait a minute, the president can step in. not so fast. the vice president only steps in if the president is imp

that's the way it goes. >> danny cevallos always good to have you. philip rucker you've got to get to new york at some time so you can sit here and be part of the fun. >> i would love that, craig. >> thank you, hallie, enjoy your weekend. danny, we'll see you soon. >>> family affair, new contenders emerging in that chaotic search for a new white house chief of staff. one of those being considered reportedly very close to the president already. >>> plus, the russia connection, russian agent maria butina, her guilty plea giving us new clues about the kremlin's efforts to influence american politics. >>> and obamacare deadline, with one day left to sign up for obamacare, why this year could be the worst enrollment season in the program's history. in baltimore, a community sees new life rise from ruin. in southern california, a small family business becomes a beacon of hope. in seattle, people with disabilities create success and shatter barriers. day in, day out, people prove that when we work as one, we have the power to create better futures for us al