speaking of great songs and a great compositions from movies and television shows, my assistant danny davis could not believe me when he saw her -- he never met you until today. i told him so much about the burdens and he has been hearing about your for years. he could not believe, when he saw you, that the two of you had written the theme from the good times. every negro in america knows good times. you look at all the other stuff you have done and all the stuff you have talked about. how does that happen? >> it happened because norman called and said, i have a television pilot. i would like you to look at it. not to sound self-serving, but the title came from the song. [inaudible] it is interesting. we were talking in the lounge before, and he mentioned the good times. we said, it is interesting, there is a web site translating what they think one of the lines in particular was. he said, why spend a lot of time trying to figure out the song. i figured out that it had to rhyme with surviving. hanging in the end -- in and jiving. others say hanging in the chow line. that doesn't rhyme. that