some really interesting conversation just sparking off michael danny moore said the biggest issue is non black people's economic about race relations. no, it's a big trouble. it's a big issue to be sure. which is why people like me write books and we all have conversations for me and you have your wonderful show. we try to help people out, we try to engage them. and i don't score and people who don't know. now are, you know, i'm skeptical of people who have reason to know and refuse to learn. that's a different problem. but the ignorance is deep and profound in many ways. so we have to solve that. we have to encourage white brothers and sisters and others outside of our communities. please learn, please talk. please engage with other people. please learn the circumstances and conditions of our emergence, our flourishing, our prohibition in certain circles that are accepting of white folk but not us. look at the circles of privilege in which you participate and circulate. so the thing is, is that, yeah, we got to encourage people to know something. don't talk about some stuff you don'