here's the man that slit danny pearl's throat because danny pearl was jewish. danny pearl had one of the greatest statements of religious principle ever when he said my grandfather's you, my father's jewish, and i'm jewish.athe and then khalid sheikh mohammed, you know, slits his throat. and we capture him, and i'm told that he's got information thatu could lead, that could prevent another attack. i also was told that the interrogation techniques that wo were using at the time were ineffective. as a matter of fact, khalid sheikh mohammed said i with will talk to you when i get my lawyer in new york. i asked -- and the cia said that they would like to take over the interrogation. and they talked about techniques that were available to them that they thought would be effective in getting information from thif killer that could save lives. i then went through an exhaustive legal review of their recommendations understanding that there is laws against torture. of course, i wasn't going toag break the law to protect you. the legal opinions came back, nt and i approv

i knew about danny pearl's kidnapping. he was a wall street reporter.t the time assumed he was dead. he didn't know that. when i was in paris, i knew mary ann lived there. she was pregnant with their first child. i had a chance to visit with her privately. my daughter jenna was with me. we had a chance to talk to her and bring encouragement and comfort to you. shortly after that visit, we found out that danny pearl had been beheaded. we found out the tragic and brutal way he killed. i kept up with her when i went to paris last year, a year ago after george was president for international literacy date. i vine -- i invited her out to launch with the ambassadors the united states and the wife of our ambassador to unesco. she told me then and she was, she came an american citizen. so she's a citizen of the united states now. >> again, the privacy thing, you discuss this, you talk about some of your yosemite trips and hiking trips, how you were able to get away on those. is it possible? we've seen the articles about carla book, the first lady of france and

i knew about danny pearl, danny pearl's kidnapping. he was a "wall street journal" reporter, and he had been kidnapped.jo we all, i think at the time, probably assumed that he was dead, but we didn't know that for sure. dea and when i was in paris, mary ann pearl, i knew she lived there. she was pregnant with their first child, and so i made a call on her and had a chance to visit with her privately. jenna, my daughter, was with me. we had a chance to talk to her and just bring some sort ofalk encouragement and comfort to her.nco shortly after that visit, we found out that danny pearl hadtt been beheaded. and the really tragic and brutah way he was killed. and i've kept up with mary ann k pearl when i went to paris just a year ago after george was president for international literacy day at unesco. i invited mary ann pearl out to lunch with the two spouses of the two current ambassadors, the bilateral ambassador to france from the united states and the wife of our ambassador to unesco so they could meet her. but, in fact, she told me t

he was the man who slit danny pearls throat he was jewish.one of a great statements of religious principle ever when he said my grandfather is jewish, my father is jewish and i am jewish then his throat was slit. recapture him and i am told he has information that could prevent another attack. i was also told the interrogation techniques that we reusing at the time as a matter of fact khalid sheikh muhammed said i will talk to you when i get my lawyer in new york. the cia said they would like to take over the interrogation. talked-about techniques available to them that they thought would be effective to get information from this killer to save lives. i then went through the exhaustive legal review of their recommendations understanding there are laws against torture. i was not going to break the law to protect you legal opinions came back and i approve the techniques including waterboarding on three people. in my book i just make the two points clear. bond. of the information we received on those on whom we used interrogation techniques save

just a few months later danny pearl did something that was a little bit more like an ambush but still not much different from that, and poor danny had his head cut off, so i feel very lucky that i got away to sell the story. >> host: and what did you learn from your contact? >> guest: i think i learned that the way, the reason that he wanted to kill me at the site of the interview was that he believed that i wanted to kill him. and that is the key thing. you've got to remember that in most conflicts when you cross, it always feels much more when you receive the prods than when you give it, and i think that's the main lesson. when america's conducting military expeditions all over the middle east and prodding with probes, drones and such should be aware that that prod is really felt quite deeply by the people there, and it's not just what is being felt in america. >> host: hugh pope, are you still in the contact with anyone associated with al-qaeda? >> guest: no. i actually, this book is partly about the reason that i gave up journalism. i was 25 years a journalist in the middle east,

pearl in paris. >> that is right. i knew about danny perle, his kidnapping, a wall street journal reporter and he had been kidnapped. we all at the time probably assumed he was dead if it did not know for sure. when i was in paris maryann pearl lived there, she was pregnant with their first child. so i made a call on her and had a chance to visit privately. my daughter jenna was with me, we have a chance to talk with her and bring some encouragement and comfort to per. shirley after that we found out that danny perle had been the head and and that the tragic and brutal when he was killed. i kept up with mary and pearl when i went to paris last year a year ago after george was president for international literacy day, i invited maryann out to lunch with the two spouses of the current embassadors, bilateral ambassadors to france from the u.s. and the wife of our ambassador. so they could meet her but, in fact, she told me then and two weeks later she was, became an american citizen so she is a citizen of the u.s. nile. >> again, with the

pearl in paris. >> that is right. i knew about danny perle, his kidnapping, a wall street journal reporter and he had been kidnapped. we all at the time probably assumed he was dead if it did not know for sure. when i was in paris maryann pearl lived there, she was pregnant with their first child. so i made a call on her and had a chance to visit privately. my daughter jenna was with me, we have a chance to talk with her and bring some encouragement and comfort to per. shirley after that we found out that danny perle had been the head and and that the tragic and brutal when he was killed. i kept up with mary and pearl when i went to paris last year a year ago after george was president for international literacy day, i invited maryann out to lunch with the two spouses of the current embassadors, bilateral ambassadors to france from the u.s. and the wife of our ambassador. so they could meet her but, in fact, she told me then and two weeks later she was, became an american citizen so she is a citizen of the u.s. nile. >> again, with the

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