when i started giving that background, 9/11, thewh killing of this journalist i respected so much danny pearl, it really honestly wasn't with a view to -- to really to peace making or finding common ground. it was i was young. we were at war, and we were afraid and it was pretty much with a view to wiping adversary off the map. and over the course of a career, and interaction after a interaction, i realized that that just is a fiction. it doesn't work. i mean, it's not a fulfilling way to live but it also risks creating more adversary than you destroy, and adding to the heads, and i think there is a more long term and a holistic way to bring an end to this conflict we just have proven time and again that we cannot prevent violence through violence alone. you know? over 17,000 years of human history so -- well with that sort of brings me to my question which is i didn't expect a book about cia to be a deeply spiritual book or i didn't know to call it spirituality or personal philosophy but an idea that human beings want the same thing you point out graffiti in a taxi in pakistan that says reme