i'm joined employee joshua , and daran joshua, aren't there already existing programs that capture most of the student that we're talking about? >> there are plenty of programs, but students are still struggling to pay for college. we know that two-thirds of community college students, up to three-quarters are working. a third of all community college students work full time jobs. we know that students are struggling to pay for college, and existing programs help a lot of students but not enough. >> president pollard, how many does it cost to carry a full load? >> it's about $9,000. if you think about this proposal, it certainly speaks to the cost tuition but the head costs like text books, living expense, transportation, all the things that this promise does not speak to may allay the burdens that some of the students have. >> $9,000 sounds like a deal but it might be far from the reach of the poor. >> if you look at the data from monthdomry country, one of the most affluent communities in the country, our financial aid has gone up 60%, and 8% of americans who lowest economic percentil