darby dunn? [laughter] that i thought that was my time call. are the divide and conquer strategy for the economic elite perpetuated climate for racial characteristics and identification to take on exaggerated her -- importance with the general population? >> guest: a very interesting question. i am not sure about the strategy of the elites but i would say that there are many instances in which civil rights policies have played out and have exacerbated the division between the working class. the example of segregation and busing. one of the things that happened was relatively early on, it was decided by the supreme court that busing could not reach the suburban school districts unless they could be found to have been engaged with discrimination involving the traded could not be desegregated within the city because by the time the case got to the federal court it was 85 percent black and the courts held you could not reach the super been districts that could contribute to meaningful desegregation. out one result is the place is for the wealthy li