over 140 people were killed last june in a land dispute in western darfur.20, the juga policy for peace was signed. let's bring in our guests. in london, we have the founding director of confluence advisory. a think tank based in khartoum. in khartoum we have muhammad ahman. a sudanese journalist and in london, julian lusk. a sudan analyst and a chairperson of the society for the study of the sudans. a warm welcome to you all. obviously this is a very complex situation. julian, i'm going to start with you. you've been working on sudan and whether you nile for many years. can you remind us of the drivers of conflict that we've been seeing in the area for so long? >> well, i wouldn't say that we've now seen a lot of conflict recently. it was very common until in break out but it's true nationally there have been all kinds of conflicts, most of which people relate to the government. they say the regime has instability because it hasn't got a social and political base. it's just the military regime that took power in the coup last october so therefore it has to

over 140 people were killed last june in a land dispute in western darfur.20, the juga policy for peace was signed. let's bring in our guests. in london, we have the founding director of confluence advisory. a think tank based in khartoum. in khartoum we have muhammad ahman. a sudanese journalist and in london, julian lusk. a sudan analyst and a chairperson of the society for the study of the sudans. a warm welcome to you all. obviously this is a very complex situation. julian, i'm going to start with you. you've been working on sudan and whether you nile for many years. can you remind us of the drivers of conflict that we've been seeing in the area for so long? >> well, i wouldn't say that we've now seen a lot of conflict recently. it was very common until in break out but it's true nationally there have been all kinds of conflicts, most of which people relate to the government. they say the regime has instability because it hasn't got a social and political base. it's just the military regime that took power in the coup last october so therefore it has to

we are disturbing here on the maidan with the flags of croatia and slovenia, they say we support darfur, something i also haven't seen in africa for someone to come out and there are a lot of such places, let's finally hear the voice of arkostan, there is no freedom in ukraine, everyone is afraid of the truth, the sbu and punitive battalions say they intimidated the people, they were people like people, but they turned into an incomprehensible thing. look, it wasn't the nazis who intimidated us, but the sbu. and you know, i confess to you. finally, angelica said, "don't say that, it's not very harrowing." you know that guy, an honest man, but we are speaking now, and operators are sitting all around the sbu, yes, and they are all over the capital, no, no, look, he is there with a machine gun, not only with a pistol, and everyone is aiming right from here, so i am very worried . they came here to make it easier to aim i'm afraid horror horror horror yes, you are so sick like us, thank god and glory to ukraine and all the best yes all the best we will meet you tomorrow mykola veresen ange

, everyone who surrounded him in sudan, someone may remember, but i think that everyone remembers darfurre, the tragedy is colossal , it is such an african region there in the sahara , in fact, the sahara, the sahara there. well and this went on for years and tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of people died, it was just a civil war and everyone was being shot at . something i did not hear in ukraine, you know, on the independence square, there are some big protests and support for someone there ha-ha- or calls for the overthrow of someone rwanda in a few months, 900,000 people are believed to have been destroyed. it's just that few people in the world thought about it, that's why very often in the history of mankind, it happens that mankind is busy with its own affairs, but today's program told us about what maksym gardus said, that people are sitting in africa and waiting for the ukrainians grain, and in order to attract these leaders of these african countries to their side, a russian goes there and says that we are doing this to you, it is not ukrainian who will collect it,

simply supported terribly on the maidan with the flags of croatia, slovenia, they say we support in darfur in africa for someone to come out and there are many such places, let's finally hear the voice of arkostan, there is no freedom in ukraine, everyone is afraid of the truth , the sbu and punitive battalions say they intimidated the people, they were people like people, but they turned into something incomprehensible. look, it wasn't the nazis who intimidated us, but the sbu. but you know, i confess to you. finally, angelica forbade me, she says, "don't say that." not really harrows and i am such a person, you know, i am such an honest person, but we are now performing, and there are operators sitting around the sbu here, yes, and they