my sophomore year, darlene clark hine came. i had the opportunity to have lunch and dinner with her. she encourage me to consider african-american history, women's history. i was not convinced that the time but she was there saying to me, this is possible, you should think about this. by my junior year, i was involved with women studies as well. i was a double major. barbara harris at the time was really motivated to convince me to become a historian and was the president and ambassador. she got the dean to give me money to go. a it was my first historical-- that year was off the hook. i don't know if people remember, but it was like eveyln higginbotham, debra gray white, nell painter. i just remember going in, this is the club of one to be a part of. there were graduate students who were there, and as far as i could see, there were black women and i wanted to be part of that, and then i went off this summer after my junior year to do an mlk, work it the mlk project as a research assistant and i met leslie harris there. my part