but they did not have darnella frazier's courage.s sense of duty to the sanctity of another -- the sanctity of life of another human being. derek chauvin is in jail tonight awaiting a sentence that could leave him in prison for the rest of his life. and that happened because darnella frazier pressed record on her phone, because she knew something had to be done for george floyd and that was the only thing she could do. tonight on her facebook page where she posted her video of george floyd taking his last breath darnella frazier wrote, "i just cried so hard. this last hour my heart was beating so fast. i was so anxious. anxiety buzzing through the roof. but to know guilty on all three charges. thank you god. thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. george floyd, we did it. just has been served." darnella frazier gets tonight's last word. "the 11th hour" with brian williams starts now.

dar darnella kept recording.final breath, darnella kept reporting. remarkable composure forry high school student who was just 17. yet there she stood on the corner of 38th street and chicago avenue south in her blue pants, hoodie and flip-flops. she hit record because, as she told "the star tribune," stuff like this happens in silence too many times. at the trial, darnella would not be silenced as she and her video became star witnesses. >> did you observe mr. floyd do anything that you felt was threatening to any of the police officers? >> no. >> unlike the officers she had videotaped, this teenager knew the difference between right and wrong. >> it wasn't right. >> her video changed the narrative and torpedoed the minneapolis police department's initial and misleading statement about george floyd's death being the result of a medical incident during police interaction. >> please! please, i can't breathe. >> after derek chauvin was found guilty of murder, darnella took to facebook, overcome with emotion. i just

he was in pain. >> reporter: that's the voice of darnella frazier.tifying in the murder trial of former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin. the cell phone video she took at the scene and posted online was seen by millions around the globe. the world needed to see what i was seeing, she told the star tribune newspaper in minneapolis at the time. darnella kept recording for ten minutes. derek chauvin with his knee to george floyd's neck. darnella kept recording. george floyd pleading for help, taking his final breath. darnella kept recording. remarkable composure for a high school student who was just 17. yet there she stood on the corner of 38th street and chicago avenue south in her blue pant, hoodie and flip-flops. she hit record because as she told the star tribune, stuff like this happens in silence too many times. at the trial, darnella would not be silenced as she and her video became star witnesses. >> did you observe mr. floyd do anything you felt was threatening to any of the police officers? >> no. >> reporter: unlike the officers she

darnella frazier, and mckee have brined. they aren't that far apart in age, darnella being a teenage girl who is the reason why there was a trial at all. you have talked about her a lot on this show, she was brave enough to take in the trauma of watching amanda in front of her and filament. she's the region george floyd went from being wet minneapolis police claim was someone who died of a medical incident, you know, in casual context of police. the even lied about it. to being somebody who really could change the world, as is daughter said. and the 15 year old who is dead tonight on the same night we got this verdict, that is such a relief to so many people, she called the police because there was an incident taking place at her foster home, and now she's dead. police shot her in the chest and killed her. so, i'm half relieved. i'm partly exhausted emotionally. and i'm not sure where this gets us long term, because police are still police, and they are still doing the same thing. lice are>> i'm glad you mentiond darnell afr

he was in pain. >> reporter: that's the voice of darnella frazier.he cell phone video she took at the scene and posted online was seen by millions around the globe. the world needed to see what i was seeing, she told the star tribune in minneapolis at the time. she kept recording for ten minutes. derek chauvin with his knee to george floyd's neck. darnella kept recording. george floyd pleading for help, taking his final breath. darnella kept recording. remarkable composure for a high school student who was just 17. but there she stood in her blue pants, hoodie, and flip-flops. she hit record because as she told the star tribune, stuff like this happens all the time. >> did you observe mr. floyd do anything you felt was threatening to any of the police officers? >> no. >> reporter: this teenager knew the difference between right and wrong. >> it wasn't right. >> reporter: her video changed the narrative, and torpedoed the initial police statement calling it a medical interaction with police. after derek chauvin was found guilty of murder, she took to

her name is darnella frazier.f minneapolis, darnella took her cousin on a walk to get a snack. she saw it, the knee of minneapolis police officer derek chauvin on the neck of george floyd. it stopped her in her tracks, and she bore witness, not only herself, but for the world. she pulled out her phone, hit record and held it steady, not flinching, perhaps knowing the world needed to see this for any hope of justice to be served. >> i heard george floyd saying, i can't breathe, please get off of me, i can't breathe. he cried for his mom. he was in pain. it seemed like he knew -- seemed like he knew it was over for him. he was terrified. he was suffering. >> and then she also said this ot the witness stand. >> when i look at george floyd, i look at my dad, i look at my brothers, i like at my cousins, my uncles because they are all black. i have a black father. i have a black brother. >> the day after george floyd was murdered, 17-year-old darnella frazier told her ohm town paper, the minneapolis star tribune, as soo

traded back and forth with darnella. we could rely on police for basic information, for example, what street and what time did this happen but we need to keep what the police are saying in context and what i mean by that is we need to compare it to what witnesses and people on the ground are saying. for example, if you have a group of witnesses singing the same chorus that matches and is a big difference compared to what police are telling you, you need to include that in your reporting. i remember darnella saying, adrianne, you do not let the media cover this up. i cannot believe this is what police are telling you. and if it hadn't been for her video, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. i personally wish we had citizen journalists like and i called her a citizen journalists like darnella frazier two decades ago when my own cousin was shot and killed in california by police. a traffic stop in this case. his taillight was out. and if i know my cousin, he was trying to get to a safe spot where there were wi

that's why darnella frasier is our loudest voice of the week.efore we go, a reminder to catch our special report tomorrow night, american voices, latinos and the covid fight with dr. anthony fauci and congressman raul ruiz. i hand it over now to my friend and colleague zerlina maxwell. it is so fun to be with you. i cannot wait to watch your show. >> thank you so much. >>> it's good to be with you tonight. i'm zerlina maxwell. joshua johnson has the week off. in north carolina another black man is dead and several police officers are placed on leave. police body camera footage of a 42-year-old father of seven andrew brown, jr. fatally shot by police could be released at any moment. there are more questions than answers at the moment. the reverend dr. william barber is here to discuss. >>> plus congresswoman maxine waters joins us. lawmakers

thanks to darnella frasier for recording that video. i'm victor blackwell. coverage continues on "early start" with christine romans and laura jarrett. stay with cnn. natural smelling fragagrances, day after day... ...for up to 60 days. give us one plug for freshness that lasts. rely on the experts at 1800petmeds for the same medications as the vet, but for less with fast free shipping. visit petmeds.com today. >>> welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is early start. i'm christine romans. >> i'm laurenne jarrett. it's wednesday, april 21st, 4:00 a.m. here in new york. >> we the jury in the above entitled matter count 1 unintentional second degree murder find the defendant guilty. count 2, third degree murder, find the defendant guilty. count 3,

and i'm grateful that darnella frazier learned that this was a guilty verdict on all counts and that she's relieved and i'm hoping and thinking that the others in that crowd will have some sense of relief and the family, also, will have some sense of relief, obviously they'll never be the same again, but i do think that having this guilty verdict really makes a difference. i remember when george floyd's daughter was being held up on, i think it was her uncle's shoulders and she said, my father made a difference. her father really has made a difference. this is clearly a tipping point, and i think perhaps going forward we will see more guilty verdicts, when the evidence supports exactly that. >> terri austin with us from the law and crime network. terri, thank you. and stick with us here, as our coverage continues. we are just learning at this hour of a statement from former president barack obama and i know we're expecting a statement later this evening from president biden and from vice president kamala harris. president obama saying, today, the jury did the right thing. for almost

tonight, david, we're hearing from darnella frazier, that young woman who posted and shared that video that we've all seen. she tweeted tonight, "george floyd, we did it. justice has been served." david? >> darnella frazier reaffecting to the news today and remembering her on the witness stand, saying she's cried many a night wondering if she could have done more for george floyd. alex perez leading us off tonight, thank you. and of course, there's already strong reaction and moving reactions copping in from across this country. george floyd's death sparked demonstrations and protests and conversations, including people from various races and backgrounds across this country. parents bringing their children out to these protests. is in minneapolis with what vis- we're seeing so far. >> reporter: tonight, the crowd outside cup foods in minneapolis erupting in cheers as they learned of derek chauvin's conviction in george floyd's death. at the u.s. capitol, members of the congressional black caucus clasping hands as they listened to the verdicts. the disturbing video of chauvin with his k

and i truly believe that. >> she was meant to be there. >> and they are talking about darnella fraser. about a month after floyd's death, i spoke with her 9-year-old cousin judea reynolds. you might remember she testified during the first week of the trial. and when we talked, judea told me i'm so happy my big cousin took me to the store. and she told me about asking to good all day, but timing. a 9-year-old realized that timing was critical. and i asked her why. and she said if we didn't go when we went, we wouldn't have the video and they would keep killing us. and i said who is "they"? and she said police. through the eyes of that 9-year-old, she already knew the power of that video. victor? >> it's tragic that she had to -- anyone had to witness that. but i think she is right. the power of that video, especially when you compare it to the press release that came from the department, would we be having this conversation about that verdict? adrienne broaddus for us in minneapolis. thank you so much. let's bring in cnn law enforcement analyst and retired police chief roberto villasen

. >> nikole, i've been thinking about darnella frazier today who was a 17-year-old who videotape, who taped it on her phone, and keith ellison said this thing and we showed you the picture before of this -- this moment tore the conscious of everyone who sought in the moment, one police officer on george floyd, three of them are watching, and every pastor by from different walks of life, not train just people going to the store realize that they were witnessing an atrocity, essentially, and but for the bravery of darnella frazier recording it, we may not be here right now. >> absolutely. what this shows is something that i've been trying to talk about as a journalist for quite some time now is that we get law enforcement different and their count of the straw is when they kill civilians. some people on twitter were sharing the original statement that the minneapolis police put out at george floyd's death and they say that they interrupted a jury in progress, he resisted and as they were able to get him subdued that he went into a medical crisis, they call the police and then he died at

and but for the bravery of darnella frazier recording it, we may not be here right now. >> absolutely. what this shows is what i've been trying to talk about for far too long. we give law enforcement far too much deference in their account of the story when they kill civilians. people on twitter, journalists, were sharing the original statement that the minneapolis police put out at george floyd's death. they said that they interrupted a forgery in progress, that he resisted arrest. . and then as they were able to get him kind of subdued that he went into a medical crisis, they called the police and he died at the hospital. far too often as in the walter scott case, we see police giving one narrative. that is not true. and it is up to citizens who are now filming police on their smartphones to really contradict the narrative of police. it's not often that journalists are the ones who are contra jikting the narrative of police. it shouldn't be a society where we're not all doing our jobs to bear witness, where we are not questioning when those who are armed with the legitimacy of the s

darnella frazier gets tonight's last word. "the 11th hour" with brian williams starts now. >>> and good evening once again. day 91 of the biden administration, though tonight in minneapolis at the intersection that has become a memorial known as george floyd square, peaceful crowds gathered yet again not to protest but to mark a change. a new message of accountability and just perhaps a bellwether moment in the relationship between law enforcement in our country and communities of color. former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin is now in a jail cell after being convicted of murder in the death of george floyd. late this afternoon after some ten hours of deliberations in all the jury said it had reached a verdict. >> count 1, unintentional second-degree murder, guilty. count 2, third-degree murder, guilty. count 3, second-degree manslaughter, guilty. >> and with that it was all over. the jury was dismissed. court officers went over to chauvin, placed him in handcuffs, led him out of the room to await sentencing two month

and her name is darnella frasier. i want to read her reaction. i just cried so hard. the last hour my heart was beating so fast. i was anxious. anxiety, busting through the roof. but to know guilty on all three charged, thank god. thank you, thank you, thank you. george floyd, we did it. justice has been served. and she was so emotional throughout her testimony literally saying she was so sorry that she couldn't save him as if she was -- she was just a child, she couldn't have done anything. do you have a message for darnella? >> you know, there's no way that i can repay her. but i can honestly tell her that she changed the world just like she said they were going to change the world. god put people in place at certain times, to sit there and do the duty that he wanted them to do. and she was the one who recorded and sent a picture who set the world on fire. people protest because of that video. and they see that officers need to be held accountable and now you have a george floyd policing act that we're trying to push forward for people like darnella and her little c

you get home safely. >> darnella frazier. she's a 17-year-old high school student who, upon seeing the restraint of george floyd, her response was to pull out the cell phone and start recording and then sought to upload it to facebook. her perception of the event, her perspective of the event. she didn't even know officer king was there because her vision was blocked by the squad car. she began recording at 8:20 and 51 seconds. he spent the day fishing with his son, stopping for a drink when he became aware of the incident. he described his view of this based upon his perception as a mixed martial artist, all right? he has a set of experiences that caused him to react in a different way. what he perceived was happening was that mr. floyd was being choked with a blood choke. i think we're past this at this point. the paramedic reached in, touched the carotid artery. to have a person rendered unconscious through a choke requires the blockage of both carotid arteries. this was not a neck restraint. this was not a chokehold. he w

we are here today because of darnella frazier and darnella frazier alone. >> it took the video, 9 minutes and 30 seconds and then it took in addition to that, these police officers taking the stand, and in addition to that, aie a year's worth of protest and reckoning. >> back to that video and i thought about this over and over again during the trial. one of the significaarts was that she never stopped shooting. so you saw the entire thing, and so you were able to watch just how sad it was. >> it took me back to philando castile and his girlfriend. her boyfriend was sitting slumped across beside her. >> yeah. >> her daughter in the backseat and the fact that these women stood there and were -- bore witness to history. >> yes. >> bore witness. >> there is poise from those women. it is a story of technology. you think of the journey from the rodney couple camcorder to what we now all have in our phones and it's the phone camera that makes the difference. it's not the one across the street. it's not the police body camera. it's that bystander perspective that makes today possible. >> it's al

. >> reporter: this morning, i spoke with his aunt they said that darnella frazier's courage that led to this moment. her 9-year-old cousin, she testified at the start of the trial about a month after floyd was killed, she told me that the entire day she asked darnella to take her to the store because she wanted to purchase some starbucks and she said, finally, okay, let's go. the little girl told me, if we didn't go to the store at that time on that day they would still kill us. i said who is "they"? she said police. through the 9-year-old she saw the magnitude of the video that captured. >> a heavy burden for children. thank you so much for being there for us. >>> derek chauvin has been convicted but sentence is yet to be decided. here to explain what he could be facing a former state prosecutor. >> john, derek chauvin has been convicted of all three charges against him. murder in the third degree maximum 25 years and manslaughter, maximum 10 years. if these charges related to different conduct they could be run consecutive meaning back to back to back. all three charges relate to t

next on american history tv, darnella davis talks about former african slaves of the turkey nation. she speaks how the cherokee were forced to accept the cherokee freedmen after the war. and citizen ship rights for enslaved people. this is untangling a red white and black heritage. >> the cherokee friedman, are those people who were former slaves, and are a member of the jerky nation. they became friedman in 1866 when there is a peace treaty, that because of the cherokee were part of indian territory mandated that the cherokee absorb their former slaves into the tribe. >> tell me about the location where were they located at the time? >> now the cherokee were in north eastern, what would become the state of oklahoma. but if you look at the map of the united states in 1880, you will see that there were states and then there were a few territories between sort of west of texas, into california. and the indian territory was like a little island because the government given those five tribes from the south, from the southeast and if you are the tribes so that land, was owned by the indi

>> internally grateful for darnella frazier and her bravery in being willing to not only witness thisut report it so that the family and others pursue justice for george floyd. and again, the police department will continue to show its true colors and what it is actually rooted in, which is making up lies against humanity for the sake of maintaining its institutional power. i think that is important. it should not be lost on people that here in minnesota right now, we are experiencing extreme response and militarized occupation of national guard and millions of dollars being poured into policing, risking these same conditions. i think it is important we witness this, that we document these things, that we share these things, and that we continue to protest and get out in the streets. we know the police will lie on our name any day without hesitating, and we are the ones who can keep us safe. darnell reminded us of that. amy: she was with her nine-year-old cousin who is wearing a t-shirt that said "love." kandace montgomery, co-executive director of black visions collective, a black-le

. >> darnella davis, thank you for speaking with us. >> thank you. >>> weeknights this month, we're featuringmerican history tv programs as a preview of what's available every weekend on c-span3. tonight the space shuttle's 40th anniversary. on april 12, 1981, space shuttle columbia lifted off from florida's kennedy space center with two crew members aboard. in celebration of this feat, we start with a 1979 nasa film "where dreams come true." the film highlights the contributions of women and minorities to nasa, and much of the work depicted in the film relates to the fledgling space program, then two years away from its first mission. watch tonight beginning at 8:00 eastern and enjoy american history tv every weekend on c-span3. >>> american history tv on c-span3. every weekend documenting america's story. funding for american history tv comes from these companies who support c-span3 as a public service. >>> up next on american history tv, trail of tears association president jack baker talks about the forced relocation of native americans in the early 19th century. mr. baker, a member of th

i also want to say this morning i'm thinking about darnella frazier. that 17-year-old who filmed that interaction, because she testified she stays up apologizing and apologizing to george floyd for not doing more. and i just -- my heart is just so heavy for her because she and that first jury, i would say, it's the first jury of george floyd's peers. those americans who came out, who filmed this murder, who filmed this and said, this is not right, a collection of people who didn't know each other who then were able to tell that second jury, the jury that had the power to convict this officer that this is not right, that is also a lesson here that even when it's scary, you have to stand your ground. you have to in some ways open your eyes and be a fellow citizen to other people. that is something i'm struck with this morning as we think about this country moves forward. there is work to do. part of it is on police and part of it is on us as americans. >> you brought up darnella frazier and the people who were standing there pleading for george floyd's l

. >> alcindor: and following this, i want to ask you about darnella frazier and the people who stoodd pleaded for your brother's life, that 17 year old darnella filmed that video that then went viral and really literally changed the world. how much are youhinking about her and all of the people who rallied around your brother? what do you think we should take away from the role that they played? >> i think about them every day. i know that my brother would just be another dead person if it weren't for her because she had the video that had laid out all the facts. we didn't even need a lawyer to actually go in there. the facts were there and i just think that right now people really believe that the land that we live on is for the free because people fight to get here. and if people are going to fight it, we need to hold our standards high. because derek chauvin, he was the law, but he's not above the law and accountability. he has to understand now that he would have to sit in that cell and do his time, just like my brother is in the ground doing his time. >> alcindor: and philonise,

darnella posting after the verdict, i just cried so hard, thank you, god. george floyd, we did it.ustice has been served. derek chauvin's sentencing is expected in about eight years. he's facing up to 40 years in prison. i was able to spend time with family as they were watching the verdict being read. they had tears streaming down their faces, they couldn't stop crying. ben crump and george floyd's brother came in with their arms in the air saying we won the championship. we won the championship. michael? >> emotional for everybody and especially for the family. we really appreciate you. great job with the reporting. >>> for more now, we're joined by george floyd's brother philonise floyd and ben crump. thank you for joining us. philonise, we're so sorry for your pain and your family's loss. we know this verdict does not bring george back, but what does this bring you and your family? >> it just -- it makes us happier knowing that his life, it mattered, and he didn't die in vain and also he helped change the world. he made people realize that people's lives matter all across the w

. >> it took the video to come out from darnella frazier.e police had to change their story because they said it was a medical incident. >> and fighting against systemic racism. we had another police shooting happening near minneapolis just a week before the chauvin verdict and another in columbus, ohio as the verdict was coming down. how does the community keep faith that things will change? >> you have to keep hoping and moving forward. part of that, as president obama said, is politics. we don't have to go into the next period with rose colored glasses. you don't go into this thinking it's easy. as governor patrick said, in the chauvin trial we heard police officers testify and say that what chauvin did was completely inappropriate. that thin blue line of silence disappeared in that trial. that was encouraging. the other thing is video. departments whose officers wear body cam and where bystanders are able to video what happened. that makes as tremendous difference. that difference is going to sink in to police officers and police officia

something else people are remembering, that 17-year-old darnella frazer who captured this incident on camera. i remember when i was working in reporting in minneapolis that day, police told us in an overnight press conference and they also sent us a statement saying a man died from a medical condition who was in police custody. we now know that man was george floyd, and the video showed us something much different. brianna and john? >> brianna, i'll take it. adrienne broaddus, thank you so much. >>> here to explain the sentencing options, cnn legal analyst elie honig. he's a former state and federal prosecutor. elie, what's the maximum derek chauvin can get? >> he was charged with all three counts. murder in the second-degree, maximum sentence of 40 years and count ii, murder in the td. count iii, manslaughter in the second-degree. as a practical matter, the maximum sentence is going to be 40 years. >> maximum 40, but what do you think is likely? >> this is important. minnesota has what we call a sentencing guideline system. the sentencing guidelines are these charts that give the jud

and i remember trading messages with darnella on social media and she pleaded, please, do not let the media cover this up. don't let the police cover this up. they are not telling you the truth. and she posted her video. and despite what that news release said, we now know what happened. guys? >> yeah, but for her amazing strength in that moment, you know, we would not be here. all right, adrian, thank you so much for all your reporting. >>> all right. let's bring in retired l.a.p.d. sergeant cheryl dorsey, author of the book "black and blue." i was struck by what adrian said about the news release, it said there was a medical event in a police interaction. we know now it was much, much more than just that, and now we've seen the conviction here on three counts of this police officer. is this finally accountability? >> listen, this is just a day. it's not a new day. we have so many other families that are waiting in the wings for justice and accountability, and but for the video we would not be here. we know now that derek chauvin is a demonstrated and proven liar. he tried to mitigat

finally toward the end of the day, darnella said, okay, let's go. she said if we didn't walk to the store at that time, they would still kill us. i said who is "they?" and she said police. the 9-year-old has the foresight to see the power of the video. and we've seen that video over the last three weeks. >> perhaps the most important witness in this case that has ended in this guilty verdict. adrienne, thank you so much, live for us in minneapolis. >>> the sentencing for derek chauvin is scheduled for june. so what factors are going to go into the judge's decision here and long can he stay in prison? let's check in with laura jarrett, anchor of cnn's "early start." what sort of snechentence is he facing? >> he's facing significant time but maybe not enough. he's facing charges. the maximum ranges anywhere from 10 to 40 years, but chauvin is not going to serve anywhere near close to that and here's why. the judge has to follow the sentencing guidelines and take into account a person's prior history. chauvin doesn't have any, so that puts him in the l

. >> teenagers testifying this past week, 18-year-old darnella frazier, the girl who took the viral videoloyd's final moments, she testified tuesday. let's listen to that. >> when i look at george floyd, i look at my dad. i look at my brothers. i look at my cousins, my uncles. because they are all black. i have a black father. i have a black brother. i have black friends. and i look at that, and i look at how that could have been one of them. it's the nights i stayed up, apologizing and apologizing to george floyd for not doing more and not physically interacting, not saving his life. >> how many other darnella fraziers are out there? kids in the black community, who have had to witness horrors like this and other similar horrors? kids. >> it's true, though, brother. you're talking about my daughter and son. you're talking about my grandkids, though, brother. here it is on easter. we're trying to pull out love and joy in the midst of this institutionalized hatred and this chronic sorrow. and the same true was when martin died, when medgar died. same was true when breonna taylor was shot.

he found out about the darnella frazier video not from anyone in the police department. no one in the police department. he said someone in the community called him and said, have you seen the video? and that was the video that changed this chief's understanding of what he was dealing with. >> i tell you what, chief arradondo showed himself not just to be an anomaly, but a unicorn. when you can display that level of professional integrity. i think it's important for people to realize that this just didn't start at the trial point. at the beginning, from the very beginning, chief arradondo has been consistent in his outrage and disgusted about the death of george floyd. he penalized the police officers almost immediately upon finding out, then he took the necessary steps to begin the reform process in the department itself. he is the professional standard, and as i indicated, the unicorn. to show just how open he is to the processes of community policing, he even referred to procedural justice in his testimony. which is a cornerstone of just about every reform process tha

that videotape that was taken by darnella, that video that was on the chest of the officers, to them it has been murder from day one. now a jury has agreed with what a lot of the people here -- or all of the people here at george floyd square -- have been saying. every day, by the way, since the trial started. you see that bright sign that used to be giving the price of gasoline. that has been changed every day. every day it's been changed how many days the trial has gone on. and now you can read it. it says, justice for george floyd. justice served? with a question mark. because a lot of people feel like, yes, there was justice in the sense of our justice system in america, but you can't bring george floyd back. apologies and guilty verdicts are fine, but it doesn't bring the person back, and it doesn't stop the pain and it doesn't stop the sorrow. and we just spoke to jesse jackson just a few minutes ago. people cheered when he showed up. and he said, i think the celebrations, frankly, are premature because there's too much work to do. and then he mentioned ten miles away you had a

one of the young witnesses was darnella fraser who recorded the cell phone video of mr.ths that was ultimately seen worldwide. >> when i look at george floyd, i look at, i look at my dad. i look at my brothers. i look at my cousins, my uncles, because they are all black. i have a black father, i have a black brother. i have black friends. and i look at that, and i look at how that could have been one of them. it's been nights i stayed up apologizing and apologizing to george floyd for not doing more. and not physically interacting and not saving his life. >> stayed up apologizing to george floyd for not saving his life. darnella fraser would end up being one of several young people that testified and felt guilty for his death even though they were not responsible about it. and the clerk who accepted an allegedly counterfeit $20 bill and then reported it to his boss so it would not be taken out of his paycheck, that was what led to the police being called to the scene that day. >> i saw you standing there with your hands on your head for a while, correct? >> correct. >> w

pivotal role a 17-year-old bystander darnella frazier whose video footage memorialized the incident. the 14-day trial will be remembered for that and more but one thing should not go unnoticed. trite for derek chauvin was a vindication of cameras in american courtrooms. not since the o.j. simpson in 1995 have people gather much much to tune in and watch the trial. in 1995, many of us were similarly obsessed with simpson. unlike chauvin, simpson became a spectacle. big on personalities but little in common with how trials are conducted all across the country every day. back then, the judge lance ito and the lawyers became as much the focus as the underlying facts. johnny crock ran and others compromised the simpson dream team. we even met our first kardashian. a lawyer and friend of o.j. the shoes and isotoner gloves and who can forget furman, lang? marcia clark got a new hair style, it was big news! the empitome of simpson, the house get kcado. while covering the case and writing letters from los angeles for his vanity fair column. and then when each trial day ended, many of us tuned

. >> that one was about darnella frazier. there was another one. let's take a look at that moment that she's talking about because jerry that's when you are questioning darnella frazier and she talks about how she feels and what regrets she has. let's listen to that. >> when i look at george floyd, i look at my dad. i look at my brother and my cousin and my uncle because they are all black. i have a black father. i have a black brother. i have black friends. and i look at that and i look at how that could have been one of them. it has been nights, i stayed up apologizing and apologizing to george floyd for not doing more and not physically interacting and not saving his life. it is not what i should have done. it is what he should have done. >> jerry, that was one of those cases where we were not allowed to see the witness. that answer looked like it got to you. >> it certainly did. just because of the humanity of it. here was a teenager who encountered a stranger who was suffering. she didn't know him. all she knew was he was defenseless and subdu

darnella frazier testified she wishes she had done something physical to intervene, to try to pull the, but no one did that, including donald williams, a mixed martial arts fighter and who very easily probably could have overwhelmed one or more of those police officers if they didn't have those loaded guns on their belts. the witnesses used nothing but their voices to try to stop what they believed was the murder of george floyd because they knew for an absolute certainty that if they tried anything more than that, they would instantly be shot and killed by those fully loaded police weapons. those police guns killed george floyd along with derek chauvin's knee because without those guns, the witnesses at the scene would have taken over that scene and done the right thing and saved george floyd's life. emergency medical technician genevieve hanson regrets she didn't intervene to keep george floyd alive. she shed tears about that yesterday. today, another eyewitness, charles mcmillan, was asked to verify his voice on some of the video, including police body cam video that he was seeing f

christiansen and the rest of the jury was 18 year old darnella frazier who was 17 years old last year when she bravely aimed her phone at derek chauvin and george floyd and recorded on video the murder of george floyd. >> what's stuck in my mind as i was close to the witness stand and her words of apologizing to mr. floyd, and that night where she couldn't sleep and she was sorry that she couldn't do more to save his life, that was pretty impactful to me. it hurt me. >> here is that portion of darnella frazier's testimony that lisa christiansen just described. >> when i look at george floyd i look at my dad, i look at my brothers, i look at my cousins, my uncles, because they are all black. i have a black father, i have a black brother, i have black friends and i look at that and i look at how that could've been one of them. it's been nights, i stayed up, apologizing and apologizing to george floyd for not doing more and not physically interacting, not saving his life. that's not what i should've done, that's what he should've done. >> every trial has its what if's. the biggest one in

so the question becomes, that video, captured by darnella frazier was crucial to convincing the world that an injustice had occurred, that the police murder george floyd, that it was a modern day lynching. but we've had video in the past, we had the rodney king video, and it amounted to an acquittal, this was 1992, a different time, so i think that video is important, and i think the police know that videos important as well. that's why they will not release the dash cam video in elizabeth city, north carolina. we need to see with our own to eyes what takes place in all of these cases. >> indeed, those ems dispatchers recordings mentioned a man shot multiple times in the back professor maria quick closing question to you. jurist presidential lee, in your line of work does the guilty verdict, i know it is not officially a precedent, but does it help other prosecutions, does it have a chilling effect as it is designed to own police behavior? >> i think it will certainly make police officers on the ground think twice as they go forward, but i think the real impact of these convictions th

. >> i want to ask you about darnella frazier and the people who stood by and pleaded for your mother'sar-old film the video that went viral and change the world. how much are you thinking about her and all the people who rallied around your brother? what do you think we should take away from the role that they play? >> i think about them every day. i know that my brother was just another dead person if it wasn't for her. she had the video that laid out all the facts. we did not even need a lawyer to go in there. the facts were there. right now, people really believe that the land that we live on is for the free. people are fighting to get here. if people are going to fight here, we need the standards higher. derek chauvin was the law. he's not above the law. he has to understand now that he will have to sit in that cell into his time just like my brother is in the ground doing his time. >> you were thrust into this. your family has now become a voice for so many. i wonder what's next for you. in some ways, president biden called your family. he said this could be a moment for significa

me, darnella frazier and the chief went to the same high school, different times but same school. different experiences. we went to the same classrooms, saw the same chalkboards or whiteboards, the same perspectives, but our perception of our experiences there is going to be much different. ultimately, at the end of the case when we are done with the argument, the court will instruct you on how to deal with these biases and perception issues. the court's final instructions will guide you to try to recognize your biases, recognize them what we bring to the table and analyze the evidence from the perspective of the evidence itself. so, let's look at this incident on may 205th from the perspective and perception. charles mcmillan, 61-years-old, third grade education grew up in the south. he described himself as a curious guy. he likes to know what's going on in his neighborhood. so he stops and check things out. his perspective he's the first one dealing with these guys. he has more information because he sees the entirety of the situation. with his perception of the event is perfect