daron wint's family none of them have ever spoken to the press. >> i know. an open letter that basically said you might remember this a couple years ago, if daron did it, we -- we hope that justice is served. but his sister came out and paints a different picture than you have ever heard. >> clearly. >> yeah. i mean it was mind blowing to sit down with her. she was very -- she answered every question we had. >> why was she so willing to talk? >> it's been over two and a half years and they've never spoken and she toll us she felt like it was time. of course over the years she's been many, many news outlets have contacted her to sit down and she just didn't feel like the time was right, but i called her. it took many months for her to get comfortable with us. >> right. >> to trust us to do this interview, and so she did, and, i can't wait to hear what's in the podcast. clearly want people to listen to us. i'm curious as to daron wint and the satisfy us will family. what is the connection there? >> well, take listen because that's a big, big part of episode th