, if every single investment darpa made was a total waste of money, except for the internet, i think darpa is an unbelievably good thing to have done just because of the critical work in enabling the internet. overallknow how the profile in the loan guarantees are going to realize energy facilitation, i do not know enough to have a view, but it is quite possible to view that portfolio over periodic years, we will say, they were able to change how we use transformers in the electric grid in a way that made them much more effective, cheaper to create, advanced manufacturing here in the united states, and some money was wasted, but it was a great thing that we did. it would be great to have that perspective and that discussion, and judge it on that merit as opposed to how happens all the time. by defining and how it happened at one time. >> someone wrote a very disheartening peace and fortune about -- in fortune that both republicans and democrats in communication and the white house and congress, essentially the communication [unintelligible] the given number of examples and one of the