hepburn was recruited by darpa. >> hepburn: the darpa director was very clear: "your mission is to takeff the table." >> whitaker: it sounds impossible. >> hepburn: of course. and that was the beauty of the darpa model. we challenge the research community to come up with solutions that may sound like science fiction, and we're very willing to take chances with high-risk investments that may not work. but if they do, we can completely transform the landscape. >> eisenhower: good morning, ladies and gentlemen... >> whitaker: more than 60 years ago, darpa was born, after president eisenhower was caught off-guard when russia launched the first satellite, "sputnik," into orbit. >> reporter: i ask you, sir, what are we going to do about it? >> whitaker: the small defense department agency was given a single purpose: prevent surprises like that from ever happening again. so dr. hepburn finds academics, companies, inventors working in garages, and pushes them to deliver. >> hepburn: what we don't do-- we don't say, "okay, here's our problem. here's your blank check. come back to us in three to

we know it went to darpa. it was a $14 million application. it was considered by darpa. there are questions we can and should be asking about what the national institute for allergy and infectious diseases was doing. there was a subgrant of 600,$000 that went to eco-health alliance, this story is very significant. it is just separate. the question is did this work happen? it is significant. imagine if i said i will paint central park purple and a year later you wake up and central park is purple you think maybe there's a connection between those things, that is what is happening here. we need to dig deeper and point fingers a china but if we have to point fingers at ourselves let's do it fairly and dispassionately. >> for over a year my next guest investigative journalist sherry marcus and has been digging into what happened in wuhan, shocking findings on the subject of a new documentary, in it is stunning testimony from a chinese whistleblower who claims the ccp deliberately spread covid during the world military games that took place in october of 2019. i thought the c

potentially accessing darpa. we don't know. this is what durham would be pursuing.government information in pursuit of an attack on trump, political operation in service of a political operation. what do you say to this? >> well there is a lot to unpack there. let me just say full disclosure, i represent a witness, key word witness, not a subject or target from this same setting. so i do have a little bit of knowledge of that but i won't talk about the his confidences but not everybody in the academic setting was copastetic sharing information with michael sussman to basically help the democratic machine. this was an accusation in search of a intellectual fig leaf, they didn't get it if the indictment got it right. the attorneys are saying differently. these are researchers that uncovered the ties to russia but the indictment has damning language about the researchers saying we don't have it, we don't like trump but we don't have evidence of a russia collusion. elizabeth: "the new york times" reports that researchers including potentially from georgia tech universit

it was considered by darpa, and rejected. there are questions about what the national institute for infectious diseases was doing. this story, though, is very, very significant. it's just separate. did this work happen? it's very, very significant. imagine if i said i am going to paint central park purple. a year later you wake up and central park is purple. maybe there is a connection then those two things. that's that is happening here. it's very, very important. we need to dig deeper and point fingers at china. if we have to point fingers at ourselves do it fairly. >> laura: for over a year my next guest has been digging into what really happened in wuhan. her findings are the subject of a new sky news australia documentary with stunning testimony from a chinese whistleblower who claimed they deliberately spread covid during the world military games in 2019. cherry is the author of what really happened in wuhan. you can re-order it today. what else did this whistleblower reveal? >> he is one of china's most famous defector

impossible. >> of course, and that was the beauty of the darpa model. the research community to come up with solutions that may sound like science fiction. and we're very willing to take chances with high-risk investments that may not work. but if they do, we can completely transform the landscape. ( ticking ) >> think you know all about world war ii's greatest heroes? ( explosion ) think again.