what would you say is the value of darpa to those who say the u.s.n military technology -- who say the z on long-term solutions? this gets back to that dynamic tension between readiness and modernization. >> i would say darpa has developed solutions that when -- went directly into seal there is stuff they developed that is in ukraine. >> and we don't talk about that a lot. >> we can't talk about it. >> there is a deterrence factor in terms of what we reveal and what we conceal. that is not always intuitively obvious to the casual observer i would say. ok. with request for the u.s. government ownership of ip being prevalent in recent contracts, how do your departments intend to incentivize commercial investment in research, development and evaluation. >> what is important for industries to understand -- i was on the other side. i was in your shoes before. if you design a product that has a modular open architecture, the government can iterate the latest software and/or the latest hardware without spending a decade because if your system is so intertwi

dobnogo program of darpa.rican the us defense advanced research projects agency has been trying to create its own neural interfaces for many years and regularly reported on its successes, not hiding the fact that it was developing them in the interests of national security agencies, read the us army. but since 2022, news from darpa on the topic of brain chips has practically ceased to appear in the media. surprisingly, this coincided with the presentation of the second generation of neuroling implants and the demonstration of the first experimental animals. this initially leads. dual-use technology, in simple terms , plans to create a cyborg from a person, who will have the appropriate implementation of cyber-physical solutions to increase his potential, both ... and motor, here we are talking about increasing operational awareness, about including a specific fighter in a single circuit, information support of the battle, a person will be able to receive the information that is received, for example, by a dron

and previously at darpa. and mr. johnson wu, cyberportfolio head at the definances innovation unit. please welcome our panelists. >> good morning, everybody. happy friday. we were backstage talking about the hardy, dedicated people that would be here on friday. looking through the glare of the lights, i see so many faces. thanks for being with us today. thank you to my panelists who will join us in a great conversation talking about where we are and where we are going, sharing our egg peerns -- experience in artificial intelligence. artificial intelligence, as many of you know, is an overnight sensation that's over 65 years in the making. but with the advent of generative a.i., open a.i. and some other models that have really leapt to the fro, we are seeing society is excited about the next step forward in artificial intelligence. society is also a little wary about what's next and what does it mean for me? so as we take a look at the federal government, which is one of the largest spenders in the united states as well as around the world, we want to make sure we are getting our mon

it doesn't work for darpa anymore so i can say in my mind we did not do that enough. we still think of this as acquiring a new technology. what we are we are doing is creating a sociotechnical ecosystem. we have to understand how transformative that is. when the printing press was created centuries ago it out only changed society it changed individuals. we became literate which we were before. ai is going to have a similar effect on the population and so we need to be even more studying ai, yes. mostly that sociotechnical system which is the combination of people and ai and that's what we are really creating. >> lisa. >> first of all i deeply agree with you so i won't repeat it. i think it's instructive so if you are relying on generating code from all the code that has been written before will that be secure? we'll have jobs because it's not, ride? soap we don't have humans in the sociotechnical system and understanding these are augmenting, augmentative tools that will augment the capabilities and not just accepting everything the computer gives them we are not goin

necessary to set new and new rules of the game, that is, to create an institution, like the american darpaeuropean food, which would help this large number of companies to unify production, to create certain standards that would... work for the entire front line, and not in separate areas, because most companies are faced with the fact that, for example, since we are faced with the fact that in one direction we have one order from the military regarding means of combat, in another direction it is completely different, and we are not talking about frequency ranges, we are talking about how they see it the military use of these weapons, that is, in different directions, they see it differently, but it must be said that if we unify on the entire front line, it will be much better, in principle, the first stage is now already there, it is the creation of security forces. lot systems, which are hoped to create, unify and set the standards for these types of weapons in order to make it easier for manufacturers to work, but definitely without an institution like arpa, which will work, perhaps it

you might notice a certain rhyming similarity to our arpa brethren, places like darpa, a rpae, arpah. those organizations were stood up to do high-risk, high-end reward research to avoid technical surprise. iarpa has the particular mission of being directed at the intelligence community. we are really interested in doing research projects that have the potential to give the u.s. intelligence agency overwhelming technical advantage. perhaps surprisingly, the work iarpa does is largely in the open. we really want to work with the broader community, with peoplek outside the intelligence community, and understand what work is going on, and that means that we fund research in other countries and we really want to just figure out who the best people are and what their technology enables. as for greatest hits, my own background is quantitative science -- and we were one of the founders of quantum information science. a lot of the work, goodwill's work in quantum advantage, ibm, companies like i nq, was funded by iarpa research. we do work in biometrics and facial recognition, trying to reall

you're looking to update whatever libraries you're using going forward darpa is looking acronym translatingsomething. it's going to be a long before we trust ai to rewrite and not to go look at it. there's no a simple answer. are they beings updated, looking for new additions to the vulnerabilities, catalog that we keep and it's building other security around it. it is that layered security. it is, you know, simple as i'm not going to go through all 7 parts but i think back to logging, knowing what's going on in your system, it's not just stuck on logging, paying for, whatever, keeping logs is great but they are useless if you're not putting resources into analyzing them. >> exactly skipper, global secuy technologist at cisco, and i have the pleasure of working across our entire ecosystem from the chief technology officer to the -- office to the designers, product management, product marketing and building, you know, the technology that we're all familiar with whether it's the firewalls, the i do dfs or going down to the endpoint. at cisco we are really about building in security, you know?

i think darpa is looking into, i'm going to blow the acronym, translating sea to rust or something. something maybe a.i. will be doing something other than writing term papers -- [laughter] translated to -- but even then, it's going to be a long time before we're going to trust, you know, an a.i. i. tool to rewritenot to go back and look at it. the answer is there's no simple answer. but it is an awareness of what tools you're using, are they being updated, looking for new additions to the known, exploited vulnerabilities catalog that we keep and it's building other security around it. it is that layered security. simple as i'm not going to go through all seven parts of the pledge, knowing what's going on in your system so you're looking for it, and it's not just stuck on logging. paying for, whatever, keeping logs is great, but if you're not putting the resources into analyzing them. >> chad skipper, global security technologist at cisco, and i have the pleasure of working across our entire ecosystem from the chief technology officer to the -- office to the designers, product manag

that is the partially been able to buy darpa and the grants through there. i think by focusing in on these sort of difficult points within the ai lifecycle where there really hasn't been development and the should be and i think we covered that in some of our written testimonies, the government has a very good role to play in helping make sure that ai continues to be developed in a way that's been official exposed to overlooking a lot of the serious issue. >> the way you cling to background, at least i hope i caughtou it, you have been primarily private sector. >> yes.ha >> the question of asking you is if theis government is going to regulate you with federal employees or contract employees, do we have the level of expertise to really interface with what what you are doie private sector? >> it's possible to wife ofyo expertise if you don't already. i will speak to that, as i've met with staff i've been incredibly impressed by the intelligence of the people that i operate with. i do have some faith the governmentve is able to employ relevant people. part of

dni talked yesterday about having darpa tools to identify deepfakes.it seems like we are moving too slow in terms of warning the public, given the speed of information, which seems to be a missed lesson of 2016. would you push back on that, or how would you improve the speed of information to the public? >> i would definitely push back on that. in 2016, i think there was one public announcement that the fbi director did october 7 about russian interference. that took a while to get out. there may have been a couple days before the dni statement, maybe we could go monday, about the attempted hack of the trump campaign. others should weigh in here, but we have an obligation to make pretty damn sure that when we put out information it is right. and that we do that as a community as quickly as we can. i think the information that has then been routinely released by the community in this election season i think, there were plans to do more, the dni has set out a schedule to do more. i think it reflects a recognition we have an obligation as a community to e

came me from having before nuclear war a scenario i previously six books on these the pentagon cia, darpa and you know 100 plus sources and each book almost all them at some point during a lengthy interview saying i dedicated my life to preventing nuclear world war three. and most people said that to me with the kind of, you know, swelling and legitimately so and so during the previous administration and when president trump was talking about fire and fury all that nuclear war rhetoric, i got to thinking about what all those sources had told. and i thought, what happens if deterrence fails? prevention fails? what would that be like? and what i learned didn't just shock me. it shocked me again and again and again and again. and that's what i put in book. i put what i learned from top tier, upper echelon national security people who opened door into this world so that i could really see what and as you know from reading book it happens in seconds and not days and weeks. right. i think. it's 78 minutes your nuclear war takes right around there. yes. yeah. three x 24 minutes. 800. that's not

that has been partially enabled by darpa and the grants through there. by focusing in on these difficult points within the a.i. lifecycle, where there hasn't been development, and it should be, i think we cover that in some of our written testimonies. the government has a very good role to play in making sure a.i. is developed in a way that is beneficial, overlooking the serious issues. >> you have been primarily private-sector. the question i'm asking you is if the government is going to regulate you with federal employees, or contract employees, do we have the level of expertise to really interface with what you are doing in the private sector? >> i think it is possible to hire for the expertise if you don't already. i will speak to that. i have been impressed by the intelligence of the people i've operated with, so i have some faith that the government is able to employee relevant people. i think part of the difficulty is the compensation. right. big tech companies are offering million-dollar packages. that ends up being quite a difficult tension ther