darrell isiah is here to talk about that. the man who ran the irs agency. grilling former commissioner douglas shulman. >>> the american people deserve to know the truth about what went on here. they deserve to know why the truth was kept from them for so long. >> how did this happen? >> mr. chairman, i can't say. i can't say that i know that answer. >> you're the commissioner. >> i'm six months out -- >> you got some sense of the outfit. you were the commissioner for six years. >> i don't think i can answer that question. >> i'm disappointed. you've had time to think about this. you certainly have more thought than that. >> what i knew was there was a list. i did know that tea party was on it. i didn't know what else was on the list. i had a partial set of facts. and i knew that the inspector general was going to be looking into it. i knew that it was being stopped. >> these hearings are not a sideshow designed to distract from the president's agenda. i hope that the president and his administration are not attempting to distract us from getting to the bot