first the chairman of the house oversight committee darrell issa, thank you for being here. that was a long flight from the west coast. >> i guess i'm a dogged flyer, too. >> exactly. let's first go to the e-mails, two years' worth you've been given some over 20,000 of them have been retrieved through other ways people she sent them to, et cetera. did lois lerner crash her own computer? >> well, we'll probably never know that. the drive is physically gone. what we do know from the discovery we have gotten from e-mails that we've gotten from multiple sources is she broke some regulations. she broke some laws. she sent trying to get prosecution sent 1.1 million tax records over to the department of justice including inappropriate or actually illegal 6103 disclosures on behalf of conservative groups. >> in the end, i thought you had said listen, she clearly did this so that we couldn't have these records. so you can see this could have been a computer crash and it lost her stuff. >> we never, i don't think anyone has on my committee has ever said she deliberately crashed her co

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then there is darrell issa who held a bruising hearing on monday night of this week. oversight committee that sent koskinen a letter last saturday asking 15 detailed questions about the missing irs emails. in the senate the investigation is being handled in a bipartisan way by the finance committee. democrat chairman ron widen and top republican orrin hatch have been working very closely and in a low key fashion trying to get to the bottom of the irs targeting of conservative groups. this week hatch sent widen a letter saying he wants to have a hearing on the missing emails. widen and many other democrats saying they should allow the treasury inspector general to conduct independent review to get the hard facts. the inspector general is doing expected report on the missing emails at the irs and we're told he is hoping to issue that in the comingthern open investigation that the justice department as well although many are skeptical results president obama phony scandal and told bill o'reilly there isn't a smidgen of corruption irs, greta? >> thank you. ever since may

obviously expecting sparks tonight because congressman ranking member elijah cummings and chairman darrell issa aren't exactly chummy at these hearings and now chairman issa sent is the subpoena over to the white house. >> i'm curious what you think about that being a lawyer. what are the chances that an attorney can testify without breaching confidentiality. >> depends what she is being called for. called in the role as a lawyer. i don't think she would be forced to testify. i know she was in legal counsel's office with the irs. i don't know what their -- i hope we are going to learn more tonight. >> that was my, not being a lawyer, that was my thinking which is why i'm kind of surprised that they would start with going to an attorney. why not go with somebody else. >> panel, stay with us. we are continuing to monitor this irs hearing. we will take it to you live as it gets started. straight ahead, two republican lawmakers are just back from inside a mexican prison. they talked to our marine who has been languishing in prison since march 31st. what does the congressman see inside the prison wa

you think this could be risky move on behalf of darrell issa. why? >> i think you will need for her to be in a position to answer the questions. if you believe the white house time line and what the white house counsel's office has said so far, she wasn't involved. oesn't fit for the discovery of these missing emails. that's not to say there aren't questions they can be asking her to shed some light on the process of white house and irs cooperation with the committee. but she better be in a position to answer the questions republicans are posing to her or it will look like republicans want to involve the white house in whatever way they can. bill: thank you, steve. viewers at home, at thouso office, on your mobile device, what do you think. think we'll ever get the emails? lois lerner has spent target of this entire deal but there were 7 members of the irs working at that same time that had their hard drive destroyed. they took the hard drive, we don't know if they put it in a met at chris or melted it down. they asked koskinen an couldn't explain. m

darrell issa will answer that question. >> the revolutionary war. who did we fight there? >> china. >> china? [ laughter ] >> also ahead, why do people who don't know anything go in front of tv cameras with watters? we will tell you. >> vice president of the united states of america. >> dick cheney? [ buzzer ] >> caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> hi, i'm bill bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. first off two news briefs about key primaries during the broadcast this evening. pithy, we will keep it pitty, because we have a solid lineup for you. we will begin with this question. were the conservative radio talk show hosts correct about president obama from the beginning. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo? s as you may know bitter divide between. the left basically wants a different america, a progressive place where the federal government calls the shot. the right wants to maintain tradition and believes that smaller government is best. enter, perhaps, the most liberal president in history bara

actually, lois lerner's lawyer was on another network this morning, and he confirmed what darrell issa said in saying that the e-mails had not been taken properly. they had not been printed off, and they had not all been kept properly. so president obama earlier this year told bill o'reilly that there's not a smidgen of corruption in regard to the irs scandal. we know now that at least there is a smidgen of something of some impropriety that both sides can agree on. the question is how far this went and whether or not there's something more nefarious at work here. >> if, in fact, there is something more nefarious at work here, will it be difficult to prove and pinpoint lerner, and is prosecution possible? >> yeah, it's possible, but it's impossible to pinpoint what went wrong when not all sides are cooperating. president obama has not given the justice department the authority to look into this. he has not created an independent council, somebody who isn't answering to eric holder or to president obama to look into this and to use the authority of a prosecutor to subpoena and whatnot.

whenever darrell issa does something, it doesn't look like the truth.hackener grand standing. >> it galvanizing. >> absolutely. so the whole truth suspect where we should be, gets lost in the pinne wind. >> there is something else i have to talk about. an interview in britain's gua guardi guardian. they asked clinton about her wealth, which is extremely large. she is running as democrat but when is wealthy. so here is what she said. she said, they don't see me as part of the problem, writes the paper, because we pay ordinary income. not to name names but some don't pay regular income tax. if past form is any gooid, she must be finding my question painful. >> sunny, unlike people who are really well off. there are other people that put that to shame. >> and other people, this her words, truly wealthy, that only pay capital gains taxes an hide their money in off-shore accounts. i think that's what she is referring to. certainly inartful, no question about it. but i'm so shocked at hillary clinton. because we know that she stepped in this before. right? sh

darrell issa will answer that question. >> the revolutionary war. who did we fight there? >> china. >> china? [ laughter ] >> also ahead, why do people who don't know anything go in front of tv cameras with watters? we will tell you. >> vice president of the united states of america. >> dick cheney? [ buzzer ] >> caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> hi, i'm bill bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. first off two news briefs about key primaries during the broadcast this evening. pithy, we will keep it pitty, because we have a solid lineup for you. we will begin with this question. were the conservative radio talk show hosts correct about president obama from the beginning. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo? s as you may know bitter divide between. the left basically wants a different america, a progressive place where the federal government calls the shot. the right wants to maintain tradition and believes that smaller government is best. enter, perhaps, the most liberal president in history bara

darrell issa said we need answers here. the e-mails belonging to lois lerner at the center of this controversy, who was in charge of determining who was given tax-exempt status prior to an election season. this exchange here said, wait a minute, i asked you for e-mails. -- >> all of them. >> you say fine, i'll give you the e-mails. but now you're telling me you didn't mean all of them. >> you told us that all e-mails would be provided when you discovered that all e-mails would not be provided, you did not come back and inform us. is that correct? >> all the e-mails we have will be provided. i did not say i would provide you e-mails that disappeared. if you have a magical way for me to do that, i'd be happy to know about it. some of them, not all of them but some of them were not available. i never said i would provide you e-mails we didn't have. >> my time has expired and i've lost my patience with you. >> friday was ways and means. last night at 7:00 it was the oversight committee, darrell issa there. today will be back to

congressman darrell issa of the house oversight committee is answering with two days of hearings on theatter. the first hearing is scheduled for 7 p.m. this evening with a follow-up from 9:30 tomorrow morning. he offered a preview of what is to come when he sent a letter to him on saturday asking him to answer more than 15 technological questions related to the missing records, like to please provide the name and location of the clean room or similar facility used to attempt to recover data from the hard drive on her computer. other questions, like please explain the architecture and structure of the irs e-mail system and exchange servers and -- please provide the barcode for irs computers issued to lois lerner. giving him no later than 5 p.m. this evening to respond, darrell issa says that he expects a long night of questioning the irs commissioner. back to you. >> thank you. coming up next, we will take a look at the primary research arm of the republican party, a focus on opposition research and the ,ark art of political campaigns when "bottom-line" continues on this monday afternoon

forget darrell issa.ou have a bigger problem with the america and this institution needs to come clean. >> all i'm trying to find out who you guys think was the one at the irs said let's destroy all of these e-mails. >> all of them at this point. all of them. >> guess what, steve? we don't know. >> what if republicans said that? what if we said that? come on, guys. who in the world would do that in the bush administration? that is not the way it operates. when republicans do this, we get those answers. you know how? "the new york times" goes after it every day. "usa today" goes after it every day. "the washington post" goes after it every day. "the boston globe." nbc news goes after it every day. cbs news goes after it every day. >> they go after it too. that is the difference! that is the difference, though! "wall street journal" aggressively covered the chris christie investigation. that is the difference. we don't have any media in our corner defending and covering up. >> nbc, abc, cbs news, "the washi

darrell issa had it right saying e-mails from a prominent official like lois lerner don't dwi -- go -- missing unless there is intent. >> they want to keep me records for seven years. they keep e-mails six months? >> anything is possibility. peter pan could be non fiction but this is hard to swallow. the irs lost lois lerner's e-mail and six other people tide to the investigation. i perused reddit before coming on and someone posed the question is this plausible -- could you lose these e-mails. and a whole host of it experts weighed in and not one weighed in saying it was possible. it seems unlikely these e-mails can't be found, and it not it sounds like someone made sure cannot be found. count me unsure. >> they could be recovered from the hard drive but now the news is the hard drive is recycled and thrown out in the garbage. that may put an end to it. >> that is a possibility, i suppose. i am not a computer expert. but some suggest it might be scored elsewhere if they use microsoft outlook you might get. it isn't clear from there this is for good. it raises questions on if this was

oversight chairman darrell issa sounds prepared to challenge his integrity. >> the biggest one being you came before us, you said you would tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth under oath. do you believe you told the whole truth? of course the answer is he did not tell the whole truth. >> reporter: issa sent this letter full of technology questions over the weekend signalling he intends to ask about whether the irs actually followed federal record keeping laws and whether the agency followed the best i.t. practices after lerner's hard drive failed in 2011. issa is seeking a detailed account of what the irs tried to do to get the emails and why it took so long that the communications were lost. >> these are simple questions he can go to staff. have the answers. turn them back toufrs and safe us going through questions as straightforward as who took steps to recover the documents, who -- who decided to destroy it. >> reporter: he told reporters friday the agency tried hard to recover lerner's emails. >> her hard drive got more tender care and drive and analysis tha

daryl issa -- darrel issa calling for investigation. >> lois lerner targeted chuck grassley.on growing. >> good morning. here we go again with lois lerner. this could be the tipping point to actually pull in a special prosecutor. we know learner was involved in the irs effort to target political groups that were entangled in that at least. now she is accused of targeting chuck grassley of iowa. this began in 2012. but for some reason learner received an invitation to speak at an event that was meant for grassley. here's what she wrote in an e-mail to other irs officials. looked like they were inappropriately offering to pay for grassley's wife. perhaps we should refer to exam. the official reigned in learner saying an audit would be premature but for republicans this is more evidence that the irs is being used to target conservatives. >> this case calls for true special independent prosecutor who has the ability to issue car rants, to cease material, to safeguard documents and other information before it goes away and get to the truth. >> here's what the irs said. as a genera

first of all i thought darrell issa said we have a problem with you and you have a problem with yourat was fair and balanced. he admitted there were problems on both sides. it is not that it is impossible seven hard drives crashed unrecover blee and there are no back ups because they recycle them. it is hely improbable and any journalist not suspicious of the claim by the government is not a journalist anymore. it is amazing to me even though i know what they are it is still amazing that they can sit there and say there is nothing to see here. >> where is your hero now? why isn't he going after the government? >> he is going after the agency in dc that is possibly more powerful and invasive than the nis, the nsa. >> listening in on telephone calls or auditing people you don't like? >> i am more scared of auditing. nothing in my phone calls are of any interest. the irs would send you to jail for what they are doing meanwhile you have msnbc covering the second bridge gate. good for them. and john oliver did a whole piece on dr. oz in supplements. that's a whole thing we should be cover

california republican, is meant darrell issa chairs the committee.rning to you. >> i am doing good bill. bill: begins at 7:00, could be three or four hours late. we will be watching from new york. he sent a letter with 50 questions for the head of the irs. will he come with chance answerr that tonight? >> these are simple questions he can go to staff and have the answers and turn them back over to us and save us going through questions as straightforward as food took steps to recover the documents, we decided to destroy it, those kind of questions. the reality is we have serious questions for the commissioner. the biggest one being you came before us, you said you would tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth under oath. do you believe you told the whole truth? he did not tell the whole truth. bill: what is most critical one for you right now? >> the most critical one has to do with in fact who made the decision to his private document. remember, a lawyer, lois lerner is somebody who decided to put documents on her mobile drive. can

when he grill, like darrell issa grilling the commissioner of the irs, basically accusing this guy, who'seen around washington for a long time, in all sorts of positions, of lying, that's pretty powerful stuff. >> issa's had a very controversial relationship with the administration in general. this is really an indication, wolf, of why these kinds of investigations are such a wild card for politicians. because they often kind of evolve and even mutate very far from the original target. in this case, we're talking about, now, the response, rather than the underlying allegation. we were talking about governor christie, where an investigation into bridge closing lanes has now mutated into something very different. we saw that most famously with bill clinton and the monica lewinsky investigation, something completely unrelated. that is the real risk to the politicians. these are wild cards. no one can be sure where they're going to go or what you'll eventually find. >> especially if a special counsel is brought in. once that door opens, you never know where it's going to lead. >> that's absol

i think as darrell issa's investigation continues and there fails to be any evidence to support thesehat's when other media outlets are turning off to this. >> you think may the reason there's not more evidence is because it's been destroyed? there's some evidence that some funny stuff is going on, usually they're protecting themselves from incrimination. if you've got nothing to hide, don't you want to talk about it? >> they've been transparent and turned over thousands and thousands, and we were talking in the greenroom. darrell issa wants to subpoena e-mails going back to -- >> back to '86, but people were using e-mail. >> john boehner thinks he plight sue the president? both your thoughts real quickly, only about a minute left, so give me your thoughts. do you think there's any standing? where does this go? the federal courts have said they're not in the business of settling fight. back in 2010, ten members of congress tried to sue the president over force of use in libya. the courts bounced that out. even if that doesn't happen, if the federal courts hear it, the president has ab

benghazi and now no the irs, it is the same basic drum beat to try to play out the clock, but darrell issa is tenacious, and he has issued a second set of subpoenas and the hardware on this and we will bring in the geex and the nerds and if you want to get to the nerds, bring up the 26-year-old who is the i.t. administrator in charge of that and we will bring him or her before congress to find out what happened, but we are not letting go of this. we have to get to the truth. >> are you convinced that it was done on purpose or convinced that there is a cover-up or that the e-mails were erased? >> when we asked as the united states congress for these documents 13 months ago and if they had come to us 13 months later and said we can't find them, but when it is more than a year later and the irs commissioner comes and i personally ask him under oath what is going on with those e-mails and he says that we have them, and you will get them, and they are on servers, was he lying to us? he was under oath, sean, and we have to get to the truth. >> all right. congressman, thank you on this busy news

en una carta esta semana el congresista darrel issa le dijo a sus colegas republicanos que lo apoyaran fin del amparo migratorio conocido como daca para jvenes indocumentados ya que, segn l, esa poltica ha causado la ola de menores indocumentados que han llegado en los ltimos meses. algunos republicanos dicen que esa crisis es resultado directo de las polticas migratorias del presidente barack obama. s/maria fernanda cabello, activista "no es cierto. es una crisis humanitaria y el cómo prefiere políticas sobre nuestras familias está intentando quitarnos daca". por su parte el presidente dijo ayer que los padres no deben arriesgar a sus hijos pasndolos ilegalmente por la frontera y que sern enviados de vuelta. s/randy serrano, @randytelemundo ya que la reforma migratoria no se dio aquí en el congreso los activistas dicen que seguirán presionando al presidente barack obama para que ofrezca amparo migratorio a las miles de personas que siguen en riesgo de deportación. esa, dicen, es la última esperanza que tienen. por lo menos por este año. cesar --tiempo de la primera pausa de su noticie

spokesperson told reporters that kerry would appear once, either at the select committee or at darrell issa'sd. on friday afternoon issa whether from pressure or humiliation or a hard dose of reality, chairman issa gave up. he called off secretary kerry's subpoena, but not before getting in a trademark cheap shot. it's been disappointing to watch a long serving former senator, like secretary kerry, squirm his way to what i'm doing today, issa said in a statement, adding getting the final truth is what matters. the select committee is the house of representatives commitment to getting this truth. issa still does not have a seat on that select committee, but doesn't he wish someone would invite him? though he did at least get a little love from the republican powers that be. instead of calling his shenanigans out for what they were, deputy whip pete roscum generously called issa's bungle a procedural snafu. >>> does the release of p.o.w. bowe bergdahl signal the beginning of the end of gitmo? i'll ask the daily beast's josh rogen and sam stein about the real goal behind the exchange coming up n

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at the same time, darrell issa has subpoenaed john kerry to testify before the house oversight committeei thought that is what the select committee was supposed to be doing. >> that is what the select committee is supposed to be doing. in my understanding, it has largely been reconciled. >> kerry would not go before the oversight committee? >> the benghazi select committee will be dealing exclusively with these jurisdictional questions in the house. i think that was more of a procedural snafu than anything. >> here is a tragedy. four people died, but there has been a dozen congressional hearings, five reports, 25,000 pages of depositions. what this really is is a rough up hillary clinton exercise, a lot of people say. >> i don't think that is true. when i asked the speaker what he was trying to accomplish, he said i want the facts out. i got a phone call from a family member who asked me the same question and i explained -- we ask american citizens as diplomats to go and do dangerous things in dangerous places. the understanding is they are willing to do that and if they get in trouble,

but house oversight committee chair darrell issa says emails don't just disappear without a trace unlessntion chairman issa joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> i think the american public gets it when a disk drive quote crashes. the data is still there. and competent authorities can recover virtually, if not all of that data. it's clear that this disk drive went to the bone yard at a convenient time with convenient information. >> are you saying that it could still be recovered or are you saying that the they intentionally offloaded it so that it can't be? >> the federal records act requires that this data be retained. >> all right. so, did they retain it or did they offload it? >> when they destroyed -- recycled or destroyed the disk without informing the national archives, they violated the law. the national archives has now opened an investigation completely separate from ours into this series of wrongful destructions. >> and i have got the letter here from the archives. >> paul webster. >> dated june 17th. okay. was it deliberate or accidental or incompetent? however you want to say i

the irs commissioner also told darrell issa he would provide the missing e-mails during the hearing ononday night. let's take a look at this. >> all the e-mails we have will be provided. >> i did not say i would provide you e-mails that disappeared. if you have a magical way for me to do it i'd be happy to know about it. i said i would provide all the e-mails. we are providing all the e-mails. the fact that three years ago, some of them, not all of them, some of them were not veil. i never said i would provide you e-mails we didn't have. >> joining me now we have attorney mitchell and from the american law center jay seculo. the irs prematurely retired the storage devices. this is after the archivist said what they did was illegal, and the exact words they did not follow the law. lerner's computer crashed ten days after the investigation began in this case. they ended their contract with the storage company, after the computer crash happened, interesting timing and the irs commissioner is a democratic donor. what am i missing here? >> you're missing nothing what's missing is lois lerne

you mentioned darrell issa. he was talking about the not so phony scandal. in fact being misled or lied to. in this case the american people clearly were targeted for their belief and their free speech by a president and an irs who disagreed with a supreme court decision known as citizens united. that's at the core of all this. the e-mails we have, elisabeth, show that in fact, these people were trying to overturn a supreme court decision and target conservative groups because they don't like what conservatives say. >> it's the ramifications of what's going on right now. i think out of all the year and a half of irs investigation, maybe it's two, i think this is the biggest week. the fact that -- this has more people outraged by that ridiculous answer that computers crashed. i saw everybody, i saw another channel, another one of the news channels also say it's laughable that they expect us to believe that. >> i've heard so many parallels between this and watergate, the main thing that's missing is the mainstream media are not covering it as they did back the

congressman darrell issa who is leading the investigation sent out this statement in response.e it is, quote, isn't it convenient for the obama administration that the irs now says it has suddenly realized it lost lois lerner's e-mails requested by congress and promised by commissioner john koskinen? do they really expect the american people to believe that after having withheld these e-mails for a year. they're just now realizing the most critical time period is missing, end quote. betsy joins me now, hi. >> hey, there. >> it is hard for some people to grasp that it's possible to lose e-mails in this day of high technology. >> absolutely. and on top of that, the federal records act is in place. specifically so that federal records like this won't disappear, for example, if a computer crashes. there's law already on the books making it so that this isn't supposed to happen. and sources that i spoke with earlier said it's possible someone in the irs violated this law by failing to back up lois lerner's e-mails. >> is that it? is that the end of the story? or is there another ave

. >> reporter: the committee chair darrell issa slammed koskinen for alleged misleading them in march, he said said he would turn over e-mails of lois lerner at the center of the investigation into the agency targeting tea party groups applying for tax exempt status. but earlier this month, the irs told congress that a computer had crashed in 2011 and destroyed some of her e-mails. >> all the e-mails we have will be provided. i did not say i would provide you e-mails that disappeared. if you have a magical way to do that i'd be happy to do that. >> reporter: some democrats on the committee defended koskinen saying there's no way that a computer crash is part of a cover-up as some republicans have suggested. >> the fact that you would be suggested tonight to the barrage and innuendo and accusation backed up by nothing for the purpose of political theater is, to me, reckless and disgraceful. >> reporter: a white house attorney subpoenaed by congressman issa will testify today during an oversight hearing. now, one thing congressional investigators want to know is if anyone outside the ir

we'll be talking to bill taylor as well as the chair of the oversight committee in the house, darrell issa. >> all righty, candy crowley, good to see you. >> thanks. >> watch "state of the union" coming up at the top of the hour, 9:00 a.m. eastern, right here on cnn. >>> as candy just mentioned the alleged mastermind of the deadly 2012 benghazi attacks pleaded not guilty this weekend in a brief aexperience in federal court. standing before a judge with long graying hair and, he made whisper of his name in a barely audible voice. he has been charged with one count of material support to terrorists but additional charges are expected and those could bring the death penalty. khattala is due back in court next week. >>> listen, 20 million of us today are going to be at the hands of extreme weather, flooding in the midwest. tropical weather off the coast of georgia. >>> they're going crazy in rio, crazy. the nail-biter between brazil and chile, the world cup match, brazil now in the quarterfinals, a look at how team usa is prepping for its big game. the largest enterprises in the world, are the

they dropped the case days after congressman darrell issa demanded an inquiry calling the investigation bureaucratic bullying. >>> well, most muni workers are back at work today. whether they get to keep their jobs is up in the air. there had been some threats from city hall that they could be fired over the three-day sickout. kpix 5's linda yee in san francisco. how is the commute tonight, linda? >> reporter: well, ken, it is much better. you don't see those lines of commuters on the muni platforms like the one you see behind me or the shortage of buses. but muni says it's still not 100% and that is why they are pushing for disciplinary action which includes docking pay, suspensions and firing some of the drivers. there were some delays on muni lines even though most operators were back on the job. and the messy commutes from the sickouts of the last three days still sting. >> i was slowed down. uhm -- >> reporter: did it anger you? >> yes, it angered me. i think they need to work it out. >> reporter: muni operators are not happy with the contract proposal requiring they contribute to

. >> the oversight committee chairman, darrell issa, said sunday he has a hard time believing lerner didn't make paper copies of her e-mails and he thinks she broke some laws which referring some 1 million tax records to the doa, trying to get conservative groups in trouble. >> thanks a lot, peter. >>> new reports now indicating that not only did the father of a young georgia boy search for how long a child needs to be left in a car to die, but so did his mom. the father, justin harris, pleading not guilty to killing his son. family members held a funeral for the boy, while his dad sat in jail, calling in on speakerphone to the service. harris has been charged with second degree cruelty to a child and felony murder. his son, cooper harris, was just 22 months old. >>> new job numbers out this week, but while we find out how many people are looking for work still, the gdp is in a slump. so was it all just the bad weather that kept the u.s. economy from making money, or is there more to blame? ♪ ♪ got to blame it on something ♪ blame it on the rain okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the me

committee chairman darrell issa. >> they hired you as soon as we said we want a bunch of documents, correct? >> mr. woferle, who was the acting missioner-- >> yes or no, please. you're a hostile witness. were you hired. >> i'm not at all a hostile witness. >> yes, you are. >> reporter: republicans want to know why it took the i.r.s. this long to determine lois lerner's hard drive crashed three years ago. >> you're telling us you did not have any inclination that a bunch of lois lerner's e-mails were lost? >> i did not know that her e-mails were missin missing and unrecoverable and that there had been a laptop crash that had caused that. >> reporter: republicans want all of learners e-mails because she led the division at the i.r.s. that improperly scrutinized applications submitted by conservative groups for tax exempt status. democrats say she's guilty of bad judgment and nothing more. maryland's elijah cummings: >> no one of the 41 witnesses swee have interviewed has identified any evidence of white house involvement am or political motivation, not one. >> reporter: the man who oversees t

darrell issa accused koskinen of lacking credibility. >> you didn't tell your i.g. that some of the documents weren't going to be provided? >> i did not -- >> or did you cause someone to find out at the white house, at treasury or your i.g.? >> i did not. if you have any evidence of that, i'd be happy to see it. >> i asked a question. >> and i answer it had. >> you did not cause anyone to find out in. >> i absolutely didn't. >> you told us all e-mails would be provided when you discovered that not all e-mails would be provided, you did not come back and inform us, is that correct? >> ul athe e-mails we have will be provided. i did not say i would provide you e-mails that disappeared. if you have a magical way for me to do that, i'd be happy to know about it. i said i would provide all the e-mails. we are providing all the e-mails. the fact that three years ago some of them, not all of them, but some of them were not available, i never said i would provide you e-mails we didn't have. and in fact, we are going to provide you 24,000 e-mails from the -- >> my time has e

. >>> plus an exclusive with the republican chair of the house oversight committee, darrell issa. >>ick and tired of your game playing. we have a problem with you. did you hope you could run out the clock on this scandal? >>> then the man the u.s. says is behind the attack in benghazi that killed four americans has

we see darrell issa. they are dramatic to watch. what's happening behind the scenes to find out where the evidence is to obtain the emails to capture them as evidence. >> the show you see is one thing but the investigation is moving into a behind the scenes technical phase. everything we know about the disappearance of these emails we know because the irs told us. and that's not good enough for congressional republicans. over the weekend it didn't get a lot of attention. but darrell issa sent a letter to the irs with 61 demand for information. they want to know the make, model, style of hard drive. they want to know what kind of failure occurred. what about contractors and vendors, they want everybody from the outside who might have worked on the irs system. they want the bar code to lois lerner's computer. this is getting way down into the weed as house investigators try to reconstruct what happened in the irs and not the irs version of the story. bill: byron york from washington. thank you. martha: we are waiting for what could be

darrel issa says he is not buying it. >> she printed out some things, you can't printout hundreds off e-mails when it is convenient. it is an election year it is convenient to have a demon monday they can create ar point to. >> you cannot have print to paper which is a policy she had to know. it is hard to belief there aren't paper copies. do i believe she printed to paper? yes. she is an attorney of long standing and it is hard to belief you wouldn't cover with your own paper copy. >> last week chairman ice saw called for a special investigator to look into whether or not learner illegally targeted groups. it is former president bill clinton defending his wife over claims she made they were broke. and against critics that says she is out of touch. >> it is true we were several million dollars in debt. she advocated and worked as a senator for things that were good for ordinary people. before that all your life you he had need to be able to show by their policies and statements about current conditions how candidates from both parties across the spectrum feel about the challenge of o

chairman darrel issa is not buying it. >> what you have at the irs is a conscious decision for the irsdocuments after six months unless they are saved the individual. think about this. you collect the documents you want to keep the rest disappear after six months that's how your irs does business. >> this comes a day after they testified before ice saw no no laws were broken p. >> we are covering the irs tea party scandal since the beginning. >> you are probably haven't heard about it in the mainstream media especially the part about the lois lerner lost e-mails. abc, nbc they reportdevoted dev minutes 23 seconds in the bridge gate scandal. they only aired 71 minutes 55 seconds over 10 days. for the lois lerner e-mails the mainstream media only gave the story 3 minutes and 14 seconds in it the first week. >> charles krauthammer is saying the press is giving the obama administration a free pass. >> the only reason the administration is getting information on this is because of the press. even mark halburn who is hardly a right wing zell lot. if this were a republican president this woul