ronald davis director of the oriented policing services and pastor darren ferguson amount, baptist church in rockaway new york. could you talk about your work and how that has informed what you see is a need for criminal justice? >> first of all, i may formerly incarcerated individual. 16 months on rikers island. seven and a half years mostly on sing sing. after released in 1988, i started working with several organizations and working on what eventually became reentry. at that point it was guys getting out of jail. we were doing it out of the back of our cars. a guy would home, we'd pick him up at the jail, take him home. eventually getting into ministry and different things, we found that a, you know, there's a lot of imbalance in terms of what's happening when people get out of prison. so what's happening is in new york state, for example, you get out of prison, you get $40, it belongs to you anyway. they give you $40, i don't know if they give you a metro card anymore. and they basically send you home and give you these great things. gain and maintain employment, be home before 9:00 a