darren sweeney asks to what degree, silicon valley with the investment of workers with automation? >> you are talking my language. i've been deeply suspicious of that for a long time. talk about who is proposing an idea. if you're redundant, you are suspicious and by the end of that, in conversation with advocates i've come to realize these are not necessary conditions, what we are talking about is minimum wage plus. rather than publicly contested minimums, it is the citizens in command you force on presumptive labor-intensive jobs, force businesses to invest more in capital, not least a shift in the composition of employment but income goes up and employment and wealth is generated and should be positive. with that version of the employer, the state of the employer, there are lots of ways that are not the silicon valley version that are interesting. >> to wonder about the issue, the total amount of jobs but the nature of those jobs changed. what is the transition look like? not so much what we do with free time but how is that dislocation handled even intergenerational he? >> time