clarence darrow said, he said you believe in the rock of ages?pplause] >> well, let's talk about dino and fossil place. i'm dino. and fossil face was my friend, stephen jay gould. and we grew up together in queens. there we are. and if you know steve gould, he didn't change a bit. he died about five or six years ago. very tragic, but he was a great friend to me, and great influence. we used to go to the american museum of natural history together, bronx zoo. if i could interrupt myself, there was a story about the scope strong, i forgot. i just want to throw that in. because i love it so much. brian died right after the drug. some set of a broken heart because his beliefs were so mercilessly attacked by darrow. darrow said i do care if i go to heaven or hell, after 30 years as a trial lawyer i have so made great friends in both places. [laughter] >> and there's a little poem about that that i would like to quote, too, from darwin's nemesis, samuel butler, who was a great writer. and he wrote a poem that i thought connected him very well with the

darrow so i don't care to go to heaven or hell after 30 years as a lawyer i have so many good friendst that than i would like to quote from darwin's nemesis samuel butler who is a great writer and he wrote a poem that i thought connected him. it's called life after death and what he wrote was this a, a sonnet we shall not argue saying it was thus or thus. our arguments will drift. we shall forget who is right, who is wrong. we shall not even know that we have met yet meet we shall in part and meet again where dittman meet on lips of living men. and now i will say back into the story of me and steve gould because steve gould was the continuation of that same argument, let some flooding in and participated in some of the recent trials, textbook trials and so on. now, when steve and i were kids we had a couple of interests besides evolution and animals and so on. one of them was we did a great interest in the use of language and we were both big solomon fans when we were kids and so some of the songs i have written to night in the sort of typicale gould, and then we had other heroes besi

host: darrow, republican line. your thoughts? caller: that gentleman that called about apathy, he needs money to know that. i cannot believe that ben bernanke is complaining about regulations for mortgages when 1994 as a mortgage regulation act, the fed was given the power and they did nothing. no. 3, ben bernanke reminds me of the governor of texas, in that movie, open-" this -- in the movie, "of the biggest little whorehouse in texas." -- in the movie, "the biggest little whorehouse in texas." host: from "the new york times" "the argument is that the chief lending by banks led to the recession after 2001." next caller, what is out? caller: good morning. i am seriously questioning whether ben bernanke's statements are worth heeding. i have been listening to the comments prior to my own. the gentleman before me referenced 1994. he was at princeton in 1994, ben bernanke had nothing to do with the federal reserve. i think that he hit the nail on the head. the banking community right now is spending millions of dollars. never mind t

host: darrow, republican line. your thoughts? caller: that gentleman that called about apathy, he needs money to know that. i cannot believe that ben bernanke is complaining about regulations for mortgages when 1994 as a mortgage regulation act, the fed was given the power and they did nothing. no. 3, ben bernanke reminds me of the governor of texas, in that movie, open-" this -- in the movie, "of the biggest little whorehouse in texas." -- in the movie, "the biggest little whorehouse in texas." host: from "the new york times" "the argument is that the chief lending by banks led to the recession after 2001." next caller, what is out? caller: good morning. i am seriously questioning whether ben bernanke's statements are worth heeding. i have been listening to the comments prior to my own. the gentleman before me referenced 1994. he was at princeton in 1994, ben bernanke had nothing to do with the federal reserve. i think that he hit the nail on the head. the banking community right now is spending millions of dollars. never mind t