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here to discuss is darryl johnson.a former counter terrorism official whose upcoming book is a hate land." max booth is the author of "corrosion of the conservatism, why i left the right." thank you both for coming on. max, you're here all the time. i'm doubly glad you're here, darryl johnson, because i have been talking about you and have known about you since 2009, since that report. i read what you wrote today for the washington post. i want to tell people what you did. you warned of the resurgence of right wing extremists back in 2009 in a leaked report. among the key findings you wrote this, you said this, right wing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about several emergent issues, the economic downturn, the election of the first african-american president, uniq unique drivers of right wing recruitment. tell me about the reaction at that time? >> well, we had a political backlash as you may remember back in 2008 when barack obama won the election. the republicans were coming off of so

>> yes. >> darryl johnson is on tonight. >> great guest. >> he's going to talk to us about what happenederview. also, there is some new news in the r. kelly story that he just gave to us, and he's going to give to us during this interview. >> very, very good. it is must-see tv. d. lemon. >> look at that. >> what are you going to show? >> that's my muscles. that's my vacation muscles right there. >> they got some cal amine lotion for that. you see his big head wobble. >> you are a you know what. see you? >> can't even see his ears. >>> all right. some of the biggest stars over at state tv are taking another page right out of this president's playbook. i know. it's a shocker. they just can't say they're sorry tonight. here's what i don't get. why would you ever expect the trump train to want to take any blame? i have an argument for you that's so simple, anybody can make it. next. ♪ turn up your swagger game with one a day gummies. one serving... ...once a day... ...with nutrients that support 6 vital functions... ...and one healthy you. that's the power of one a day. ♪ one plus one equals

. >> joining me now is darryl johnson, a publicist for r. kelly. i'm so glad to have you here.nk you. the world is fascinated with this story, and we appreciate you joining us here this evening. so let's talk about the -- today the mother of joycelyn savage said she is pleading for a face-to-face interview with you to arrange it between her daughter. >> well -- >> you say that could happen as early as this week? >> it could happen. if all the terms are met. >> so can you tell us what the conditions are? what are the conditions? >> based on the last meeting i heard that happened it turned out pretty bad. i want something contained. we have maybe one camera, a mediator. not to just let memorandum do what they do. and someone to just sit and just listen. and when it's over perhaps interview each participant and say what did you get out of it? and everybody got what they wanted. >> i want to get that out of the way because that's the newest piece of information in this. is that the meeting -- there are two families here who've been saying that their daughters are being held hostage

warned, the guy who warned us about exactly what's happening now, warned us about it, his name is darryl johnson the show. he said 8 years ago i warned of the resurgence of white wing extremist activists. associated of the violence in united states. the financial crisis, the stock market crisis, guess what, he put out the report. the obama administration put it out. janet napolitano had to apologize because conservatives, veterans groups, on and on, they complained about it and now exactly what he said in that report is coming true. >> it wasn't an original threat. idea. now we're seeing an obvious ramping up for obvious reasons. the left and right mismanaged it. obama cut funding too. muslims became the boogie man. >> they have. but why do we have this perception in our society that certain groups of people cannot be terrorists? cannot be terrorize people? but muslims can. even though in every single bit of research all the facts show -- who the biggest perpetrators of the domestic terrorism in the country and have been for a long time. people cannot wrap their he understand around certain peop

. >> reporter: gerald griggs says kelly's crisis manager darryl johnson told him last week a meetingetween joycelyn and her family was imminent. >> if she decides willingly to leave, that's on her. we want to establish a relationship back with her family and then move from there. >> reporter: in a television interview lasthtit the meeting. >> we have maybe one camera, a mediator, not to just let them do what they do, and sit and listen. when it is over, each participant say what did you get out of it and everybody got what they wanted. >> reporter: last week joycelyn savage made a surprise phone call to her family. >> i'm very happy. >> how do we know you're happy when we don't hear from you in two years? >> i have to go now. >> i love you, joycelyn. >> reporter: that call came the day after she and kelly's other live in girlfriend azriel clary gave an exclusive interview with gayle king, with kelly listening nearby, both women claim their parents were scammers, out to get money from the three-time grammy winner. >> i can make my own decisions and i choose to be here with robert. >>