. >> rob: it's ironic, 20 years ago, the all-star game, darryl strawberry caught a pitch at home plate guy out. i used to love playing here. not night games though. not night games in april. there was a lady down by our bullpen who would bring us brow brownies. i think that was to make us fat and sick. we weren't going to say no. >> bob: ramirez is .379 career against livan. he's off to a miserable start. 11-76 this year. talk about an expensive middle of the lineup. from fukudome threw lee, byrd, ramirez, and soriano. those guys, making lots and lots and lots of money here in chicago. >> rob: you can't say the cubs' former ownership and management didn't try to get players in here and win. they brought in lou pinella, won the division. the cardinals took it back. just a question of the right talent, mixing it all together. it's not that easy. >> bob: but the cubs have not developed many players in their organization. >> rob: agreed. >> bob: none of those guys i mentioned were developed. theriot and fontenot were. they're home-grown, drafted cubs. ramirez hits one deep to center. nyjer