we have darryl williams. baird williams grier. excuse me. about to forget. this is the man, this is the man he said be sure to tell you he is a right wing republican. what darryl in my opinion is most famous for, he's a trial lawyer, both defense and plaintiff. but he's the man that thread charge to recall russell pierce, russell pierce, the author of 1070, this is the man that led the charge to recall russell and vote him out of office. thank you, darryl. and marshall phipps is our moderator. i'd like for you folks to get with the program. thank you. >> thanks so much, norm, thanks so much, todd. thanks to everyone who has worked to convene this important discussion and of course to congressman passtor for hosting. while political prowess prevented congressional from tackling the immigration system it's an overhaul overdue and one many of us have been fighting for many years to achieve. the pressures of a large undocumented population continue to be foisted on state and local governments and communities. opponents of immigration reform have opponents such as

we have darryl williams -- baird. this is the man who said they sure to tell you he is a right-wing republican but darrell is most famous for, he is a trial lawyer lawyer both defense and plaintiff but he is the man that led the charge to recall russell pierce. russell pierce 1070. this was the man that read the charge to recall russell and vote him out of office. thank you, darryl. and marshall phipps, do you want to be our moderator? he is with the director of immigration policy. i would like you folks to get with the program, thank you. >> thanks so much norm. everyone who is worked in into in the to convene this discussion and congressmen pasteur for hosting. wild political prowess has prevented congress from tackling an overhaul of the immigration system, it's an overhaul that has been pointed out that is long overdue and one that many of us have been trying for many years to achieve. the pressures of a large undocumented population continued to be foisted on state and local governments and communities. opponents