. >> daryl parks, thank you very much indeed. >> thank you very having me. >>> let's turn to jeffrey toobin and leslie crocker snider. we'll come to you both. jeffrey, where are we? >> i thought it was a good opening to the summation. putting in context not that this crime began the night trayvon martin died, but it began when george zimmerman became more and more obsessed with prowlers in the neighborhood and got more angry. i thought that was veryfective. where i thought it was less effective was the use in the second half of all the so-called inconsistencies. none of them jumped out to me as bald faced lies, and i thought building your entire summation or the entire second half around george zimmerman's own words rather than the testimony of others, i thought that was problematic, and i think that was a weakness in the summation. >> apparently, it is standard practice under florida law to bring in second-degree murder in cases like this, manslaughter as an option at this stage. some are spinning this as a vehicle tomorrowry for the state. that wouldn't appear to be the case. it's

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benjamin crump and daryl parks.e did reach out to the attorneys for george zimmerman and have not yet received a response. thank you first of all for joining us. can i ask you how trayvon martin's parents have responded to the closing arguments today? >> as we have talked with kerry sanders, it was very emotional, martin. and they really believe that john guy got back to the heart of the matter, what this case is really about. and remember when we first started this journey almost 17 months ago, their son was dead on the street. and the police told them effectively, he had been shot by the neighborhood watch volunteer with a .9 millimeter gun, and they were not going to arrest him. and i remember talking to trace martin than they didn't need me, i said certainly they're going to arrest him. give it a couple of days and then he called me back a couple days, and he said i told you, attorney crump, they're not going to arrest him. so when the prosecutor talked about that in his closing summation about if it was reverse

joining me now is daryl parks. daryl, appreciate your joining us. what is your reaction to not testify? >> george i think realized had he taken the stand, he would have had to face a tough cross-examination but also he sat there and saw the many different statements he's given presented in this case. >> is the martin family disappointed they won't get to hear zimmerman cross-examined in an open court or is it somewhat of a relief they don't have to go through hearing it? >> i don't think either way on that one, anderson. they -- they believe that, you know, had he taken the stand he would say the same things he said before, however, i think that he made a decision based on the fact he would be cross-examined on many inconsistencies he said in the course of this case. >> the state asked for manslaughter and aggravated assault to be included in the charges read to the jury in audition to second-degree murder. does the martin family, do you have an opinion on that, if he was convicted of a lesser charge, he could still do just about the same amount of

martin family daryl parks was there. he joins us now.l, i want to ask you about the martin family. how are they holding up? >> anderson, you know, obviously they were devastated last evening. as the day has progressed, they've gathered themselves together and really had a chance to think about moving forward and trayvon's legacy and trying to turn a situation into a positive. so we are encouraged by them and their fortitude to make sure that they, one, tell people to remain calm, but also now to build on trayvon's name and what his name will mean in american history. >> i know you were in the courtroom when the verdict was read. trayvon's parents weren't there. a lot of people were maybe surprised by that since they'd been in court every day. do you know why they decided they didn't want to be there at that moment? >> based on our advice, number one. we had already decided they probably shouldn't be in the courtroom. anderson, this is a very tough issue for them. for them to have been through all of this for the last four weeks, we decid

i want to bring in now daryl parks, the co-counsel for the martin family. mr. parks, nice to see you tonight. let me begin with today, which was absolutely the most dramatic day of this trial with these two mothers testifying both in the morning and then in the afternoon, and here you -- i can't help but think of these six female jurors, five of whom are women, and my question to you really is i know what side you're taking here, but how is the jury to determine which mother to believe? >> well, i think this jury has to weigh all of the evidence in this case. i think that they've heard from various family members in this case and i think one of the witness testified that he heard the screams but didn't hear the other tv audio that took place. they'll have to weigh that evidence in this case. >> we know that the state rested its case and the prosecution ended with this medical examiner who changed his mind, was all over the place, has really been criticized for much of his testimony. powerful witnesses here though because you have the defense today starting with

joining me now is daryl parks. you've been on the show a couple times. thank you for being here. >> let me go. you and the family made this statement. let me play it for our audience. >> let's be clear about it. very clear. this family does not want race as a part of this process and does not believe it should be a part of this process. >> do you feel the same way now? >> i do. let me explain, sean. that same day we heard don west talked -- this family understands and our judicial system you never want race to be a part of the decision to make people choose sides when you're in front of a jury. now, it would be intellectually dishonest to say there's not a racial under tone to this case. for purposes of a jury trial, you don't want anything with a racial bias whatsoever. >> this decision, i a grum you disagree with it? >> i do. >> what is this racial under tone that you're talking about? >> for lawyers who try cases, it's so important to understand jury intellect. when you listen to what that juror said, describing rachel jeantel as inadequate. >> she sa

i spoke to martin family attorney daryl parks, ben crump's law partner.s also an attorney for trayvon martin's parents. daryl, i want to start off with this interview mark o'hara gave to martin savidge. he accuses ben crump of manipulating facts, making up stories, victimizing george zimmerman to use his words in a smear campaign, and he said that without his actions, zimmerman would have never been charged. how do you respond? >> well, anderson, let's take our time and go through this, because it's very important. remember, and i remember when ben first came back to our firm, this guy had killed trayvon martin and the sanford police department were getting ready to close the investigation. and they indicated that they were not going to arrest this guy. and we believe wholeheartedly that if you killed an unarmed teenager, you at a minimum ought to be arrested. now, mr. o'mara may have philosophical problems with that, but in our business, we're civil rights lawyers. when someone kills someone that is unarmed, that person should go into our justice system

they want to take the deposition of daryl parks before they proceed. i think you will see some things drag out tomorrow an go in to judgment or acquittal arguments and even though the judge wanted them end to today and start tomorrow, the great likelihood they will drag out today and judgment acquittal arguments and more than likely have them commence their case on monday. >>> sunny, it is entirely possible for the jury, if they don't believe the state has proved second-degree murder the jury themselves could convict on manslaughter, correct? >> well, if they are charged, yeah. if they are instructed they can consider lesser included, like manslaughter i think that is very possible. >> marcia, is that likely they will be instructed. >> oh, yeah. i can't imagine they wouldn't be. the defense may object. there are times when the defense wants to play an all or nothing game with the jury and say no, second degree, no manslaughter, second degree or nothing. it is a dicey, questionable move on their part and i don't think they will do it and even if they do

i spoke to daryl parks, ben crump's law partner and also an attorney for trayvon martin's parents.tart off with this interview mark o'mara gave and he accuses your co-counsel ben crump of manipulating facts, making up stories, victimizing george zimmerman in a smear campaign, publicity campaign and said without his actions, zimmerman would have never been charged. how do you respond? >> let's take our time and go through it because i think it's very important. i remember when ben first came back to the firm. this guy killed trayvon martin and the sanford police department were getting ready to close the investigation, and they indicated that they were not going to arrest this guy, and we believed whole heartily that if you killed an unarmed teenager, you had a minimum of at least being arrested. mr. o'mara may have philosophical problems with that but we're rights lawyers. when someone kills someone who is unarmed, that person should go into the justice system and go into that process. that's not a decision that should be made by one or two people. it's a decision that should be ma

joining us is the attorney for the trayvon martin family, daryl parks. so much for joining us. you've just told me you were actually supposed to be in canada speaking so we're delighted you're here. i have to ask you, what was your reaction to the president's statement? >> humbling. martin, i think for most african-americans who live life in america, our experience is a little different from other people. so for the president in his way to address some of the things that people are feeling post verdict are so important. i think that for the rest of the country, certainly what our legal system did was the legal system. his comments were so appropriate how he. you the it in context. so no one, he didn't make any comment about the jury, the lawyers and the case. but after that, the people in this country feel a sense of emptiness. and it was so appropriate for one, him to respond to the people and to give them some hope because people need hope now and direction. that's what presidents do. >> it's also been the case, has it not, sir, that we have seen the t

daryl park joins us. nice to see you. >> thank you for having me. >> sometimes they won't question the mother of a young man who died or a boy. were you satisfied with the way mark o'mara explained why he kronlged her? >> i don't think he should have called her. nonetheless, it was his decision. i think he'll pay for that decision in that he tried to compare himself to a doctor. probably one of the wisest things a doctor sometimes has to decide is not to cut. and not to have a surgery. not everyone is a good candidate. but that was his decision. i think that his decision was pretty insensitive. there's some question of especially what hope she maintains. i think it really took a lot out of her to maintain her composure. and to answer his questions. >> what did she say afterwards? >> she was not happy. but maybe that was his intent not to make her happy. her answering that question meant nothing to this case. brought nothing of value of determines whether or not george zimmerman was innocent or guilty for

i spoke to daryl parks, ben crump's law partner and also an attorney for trayvon martin's parents.ant to start off with this interview mark o'mara gave and he accuses your co-counsel ben crump of manipulating facts, making up stories, victimizing george zimmerman in a smear campaign, publicity campaign and said without his actions, zimmerman would have never been charged. how do you respond? >> let's take our time and go through it because i think it's very important. i remember when ben first came back to the firm. this guy killed trayvon martin and the sanford police department were getting ready to close the investigation, and they indicated that they were not going to arrest this guy, and we believed whole heartily that if you killed an unarmed teenager, you had a minimum of at least being arrested. mr. o'mara may have philosophical problems with that but we're rights lawyers. when someone kills someone who is unarmed, that person should go into the justice system and go into that process. that's not a decision that should be made by one or two people. it's a decision that shou

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we asked their family attorney, daryl parks, why they were not seated for the verdict?they not be there and that they go ahead and travel back to south florida so they could be in church today. i think them being there probably wouldn't have added anything to what we witnessed last night. >> trayvon's father, tracy, sent this tweet out not long after that verdict was read. even though i'm heart broken -- i'm sorry. even though i am broken hearted, my faith is unshattered. i will always love my baby tray. joining me now to talk more about what happened in this, legal contributor seema and former new york city prosecutor gary kazmir. great to have you both here. seema, we've had an opportunity to talk about this before. did you think that we were going to get the verdict that we received based on how the prosecution laid out its case? did they connect the dots for this jury? >> no, they did not connect the dots. unfortunately, i wasn't as surprised about the verdict. saddened, but not surprised. that is because of -- not about the lawyering, not about who's flashier than

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. >> when i talked to daryl parks one day and he said y'all talked ahead of time about not being there when the verdict came down, why didn't you want to be there that day? >> we didn't want to be there because we were told by the court system that there were -- you couldn't do any outbursts, so i think by us not being there, it took the sting out of people seeing us react to it because it literally broke us down. >> juror b-37 when she spoke on 360 said she had a clear picture from george zimmerman from the trial but only a hazy one of martin. listen. >> you call george zimmerman george. do you feel like you know him? >> i do. i feel like i know everybody. >> you call trayvon, trayvon, as well. >> i did. trayvon wasn't as well-known by us because there wasn't as much said about him. >> ben, do you think it would have made a difference with the jury, i don't know, if sympathized is the right word or felt they connected with him? >> the thing that was so troubling when i watched that interview, was how she said in their community, they. she almost said like they were from a different wo

evidence for the prosecution today, but daryl parks, thank you for being even the program, join us this evening. you had spent some time with the family as this is is an emotional and tough day for them. >> thank you. >>> one of the main themes of the trial this week was forensic evidence. and then we heard about trayvon's death from the medical examiner. >> when that bullet entered the chest of trayvon martin, what happened? how did he die? >> i believe he was alive for one to ten minutes after he was shot. his heart was beating until there was no blood left. at that point, his heart stopped, and he was completely silent. >> joining me, fox news contributor dr. michael baden. pleasure to have you on the program this evening. want to get your thoughts. what was your assessment after hearing that testimony today? >> i think that the doctor began strong and then got into the weeds of not answering questions and of not having exam you knowed the clothes and answering the questions that had to do with what me call examiners are supposed to find in gunshot wounds, how far was the gun from th

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. >> when i talked to daryl parks one day, one of your attorneys, he said that you all had talked ahead of time about not being there the day the verdict came down. why did you not want to be there that day, and how did you actually hear about the verdict? >> we didn't want to be there because we were told by the court system that there were -- you couldn't do any outbursts. you couldn't say anything. you couldn't have any reaction. and we thought that was going to be pretty difficult for us either way. through our attorney's advice, they told us, they suggested to us that we not be there, and we kind of weighed both sides and said maybe this is not a good thing for us to be there, because either way, how could you be quiet? how could you not say anything? how could you not show any emotions? so i think by us not being there, it took the sting out of people seeing us react to it. because it literally broke us down. >> when you heard the verdict on television, you broke down? >> yes, yes. >> how could you not, i guess. did it come as a total shock? i mean, there were some legal analysts

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we'll hear from mark o'hara about what he has to say and reaction from daryl parks, ben crump's law partner, who is also an attorney for the martin family. >>> now that the zimmerman trial that's guaranteed. so join the six million people who have already called about this insurance. whether you're getting new insurance or supplementing what you already have, call now and ask one of their representatives about a plan that meets your needs. so, what are you waiting for? go call now! we'll finish up here. >>> now that the zimmerman trial is winding down, defense attorney mark o'mara sat down for a wide-ranging interview with martin savidge who joins us now. you asked him whether he has any regrets about cross-examining trayvon martin's parents. i want to play that. >> reporter: you took what some might consider risks during the trial, one of them being that you cross-examined a grieving mother. >> yes. >> reporter: any regrets on that? >> i don't know that it was ben crump doing all that manipulation but i'm very surprised that the prosecution team decided not to take this case to a grand jur

joining me, martin family attorney daryl parks. mr. parks, welcome back. >> thank you. >> a lot of criticism as you know of the prosecution, their handling of the case. what's your feeling about it? >> well, i am not so quick to judge the prosecution. i will say i believe they have done a good job with the evidence they have to work with. one of the legal strategies they are confronted with is dealt with the character issue. they have dealt with it that well, it was a delicate issue and make sure trayvon he's case we have here was tried base on the facts of the case and not based on all the other things we've seen, the defense tried and made this case about. not about marijuana, not about pictures they tried to put in the public domain, it's about what happened between him and george zimmerman that night. >> what about the medical examiner changing his initial testimony, saying that the marijuana may have an impact on trayvon's initial thinking. >> in this case, they tried to make any issues like that issue, a collateral issue of decid

. >> daryl parks told cnn that the family is glad the ordeal of the trial is nearly over. >> now we're at a point where they can see the end of the tunnel, and they're very prayerful and very hopeful to god that this is going to end in justice for trayvon. there's no happy ending for them either way, right? their son is not here. it's not like they are going to rejoice in george zimmerman going to jail. it's an unhappy situation for both sides. however, what it does mean though is that tray's killer doesn't continue to walk free as if he did nothing wrong. >> all right. once again we're going to be bringing in wendy murphy and anne bremner. let's look at some of the legalities at play here. a big question is obviously going to be whether or not george zimmerman needed to do what he did that night to save his life. i mean, when you finally boil everything down, that's what the jury has to agree on, right? wendy, let's start with you. how do you see that question shaping up after everything we've heard? >> yeah. chris, i actually think you misstated the legal standard. that isn't what th

evidence for the prosecution today, but daryl parks, thank you for being even the program, join us this evening. you had spent some time with the family as this is is an emotional and tough day for them. >> thank you. >>> one of the main themes of the trial this week was forensic evidence. and then we heard about trayvon's death from the medical examiner. >> when that bullet entered the chest of trayvon martin, what happened? how did he die? >> i believe he was alive for one to ten minutes after he was shot. his heart was beating until there was no blood left. at that point, his heart stopped, and he was completely silent. >> joining me, fox news contributor dr. michael baden. pleasure to have you on the program this evening. want to get your thoughts. what was your assessment after hearing that testimony today? >> i think that the doctor began strong and then got into the weeds of not answering questions and of not having exam you knowed the clothes and answering the questions that had to do with what me call examiners are supposed to find in gunshot wounds, how far was the gun from th

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. >> daryl parks, appreciate you being with us, thanks. >> thank you. >>> back with our panel, mark,et me start with you. what are you thinking as you look toward prosecution resting on friday and the defense, how much longer, what are you looking -- who do you think the defense will put on the stand to bolster their case? >> first thing, anderson, when he talks about the analyst sitting in l.a., i want you to know i'm in berkeley tonight, not l.a. okay? i think they telegraphed and not just going to call one family member, two family members, which i think will then cause the defense to call george zimmerman's father. so i think, and mark doesn't need my advice but i think he should book end it with those two witnesses, if they rest with those two witnesses friday. >> do you see the defense putting on a ro bust defense for many days. >> no, i don't. i don't think they need to. the defense has been able to try their case within the prosecution's case. so i do think it will be relatively brief. i think they will rest next week. >> sunny hosten, do you agree with that? >> absolutely, a

. >> daryl parks, the attorney for trayvon martin's family, spoke to my colleague ris chrchris ja moments ago. take a listen. >> that meant anyone black not dressed appropriately was a suspect. a person of white wouldn't have been a suspect. that's a problem. and it probably gives the justice department a little bit more to go on than they had when they originally started investigating this case. >> the prosecutors are facing a lot of monday more than quarterbacking whether they did all they could to get a conviction and in their own defense, said zimmerman should have taken the stand to explain his actions. >> as we all well know, he's got the right not to and he made that decision. >> he was afraid to take the stand. >> the proof is in the pudding. did he take the stand? >> nobody just gets a gun out and shoots. even trained police officers when they are on the ground with a suspect on top of them, they can't get their guns out that quickly. >> i think there was a struggle. at some point, trayvon became aware of the gun and was backing up. >> while the president is calling for calm, cer

. >> when i talked to daryl parks one day, one of your attorneys and he said y'all talked ahead of time about not being there the day the verdict came down. why did you not want to be there on that day, and how did you actually hear about the verdict? >> we didn't want to be there because we were told by the court system that there were -- you couldn't do anything outbursts. you couldn't say anything. you couldn't have any reaction. and we thought that was going to be pretty difficult for us either way. through our attorney's advice, they told us, they suggested to us that we not be there, and we kind of weighed both sides and said maybe this not a good thing for us to be there because either way, we -- how could you be quiet? how could you not say anything? how could you not show any emotions? so i think by us not being there, it took the sting out of people seeing us react to it because it literally broke us down. >> when you heard the verdict on television, you broke down? >> yes, yes. >> how could you not, i guess? did it come as a, as a total shock? i mean, there were some legal an

. >> joining me now is daryl parks, one of the attorneys for the martin family. good morning and thank you for joining us. >> good morning. >> the first most obviously question, what can you tell us about how trayvon martin's parents are doing this morning? >> well, you know, obviously, when the verdict first came down, they were just flattered, unbelievable. now yesterday they began to gather themselves and now are getting the type of assurance they must now move forward, notwithstanding this jury's verdict to preserve trayvon's legacy and make sure it does not happen to anyone else's child again. >> have they been watching the protests and rallies and seeing this outpouring of support across the country? >> yes, they have and that is part of the encouragement. when you see people coming out who is mostly being nonviolent in support of them and trayvon martin, they are very encouraged by that and it gives them inspiration. >> will they file a civil suit against george zimmerman? >> obviously that is an option we are talking about with them. it will happen at a p

. >> daryl parks is a lawyer for the martin family. he joins us. see you again, daryl. >> hi, greta. nice to see you as well. >> i want to first speak about jasmine rand who is on your team. last night she told me that she obviously disagreed with the jury verdict and said she was into social engineering i think was the term she used. does the team not have respect for the jury and the jury system? >> we have tremendous respect, greta, for the jury system. in fact, up until last night i really was of the opinion that the jury was off-limits and the providence of the jury should be respected. when you listen, though, to what that lady said last night, i was so disheartened as i drove back up to tallahassee. i got on the phone with my client and said i can't believe what she's saying. >> what are you saying? >> the juror. >> i'm talking about your colleague on this team, right? talking about the juror. >> let me explain what jasmine was saying. there's a point, certainly as lawyers we try cases. we respect what the jury does. but we also respect the

. >> daryl parks, appreciate you being with us, thanks. >> thank you. >>> back with our panel, mark,art with you. what are you thinking as you look toward prosecution resting on friday and the defense, how much longer, what are you looking -- who do you think the defense will put on the stand to bolster their case? >> first thing, anderson, when he talks about the analyst sitting in l.a., i want you to know i'm in berkeley tonight, not l.a. okay? i think they telegraphed and not just going to call one family member, two family members, which i think will then cause the defense to call george zimmerman's father. so i think, and mark doesn't need my advice but i think he should book end it with those two witnesses, if they rest with those two witnesses friday. >> do you see the defense putting on a ro bust defense for many days. >> no, i don't. i don't think they need to. the defense has been able to try their case within the prosecution's case. so i do think it will be relatively brief. i think they will rest next week. >> sunny hosten, do you agree with that? >> absolutely, absolutel

i'm lucky enough to be joined by daryl parks who represents the martins. he has been here, not leaving their side, day after day. he tacks to them -- talks to them before trial, he talks to them after the trial. he listens in on the testimony and he's joining me here in the mobile sanford studios. thank you for being with us. >> thanks for having us. >> i see you come in and out of court, i don't want to come up and say hello, but now i have the opportunity to ask how is everyone. >> it is tough. you have to remember they have to sit here and listen to the same testimony. probably one of the toughest of the days was when the guy was talking about trayvon was shot and how george zimmerman tried to hold him down as he was suffering in his last moments. that was very tough. >> but they never falter. they never waiver. they're so stoic. sometimes i wonder how are they keeping it together? what kind of counsel are you able to give them? what kind of counsel is someone else able to give them, just so they can get through this psychologically? >> the first thing

they want to start the case on monday and take the deposition of daryl parks before they provide.dragged out a bit tomorrow and go into judgment of acquittal arguments and even though the judge wanted them to end today and start tomorrow, i think in great likelihood they will drag out the day and more than likely you'll have them really commence the case on monday. >> and sunny, it's entirely possible for the jury, if they don't believe that the state has proved second-degree murder, that the jury themselves could convict on manslaughter, correct? >> well, if they are charged, yeah. if they are instructed that they can consider lesser included like manslaughter, i think that that's very possible. >> marsha, is that likely that they would be instructed? >> oh, yes. i mean, i can't imagine they wouldn't be. there are times when the defense wants to play on all or nothing game with the jury and say no, second degree, no manslaughter, second degree or nothing. it's a dicey questionable move on their part. i don't think they will do it. if they do, the judge can over rule and say i'm g

joining us some daryl parks one of the lawyers representing trayvon martin's parents. you were in the courtroom for the verdict, the parents were not. what went through your mind when you heard the words "not guilty" and how are they are they doing. >> to hear the words, i couldn't believe it. disbelief. not part of my plan for them. but it's the jury's verdict. so legally we have to accept it but we all know socially the verdict is illogical. that unarmed teenager has been killed by someone who had a nine millimeter gun. >> we talked during the trial, you seemed to think all along that prosecutors were winning. what went wrong? >> well, i think what went wrong is unfortunately our laws allowed them to have this portrayal of trayvon as some thug. i don't think this jury could connect with trayvon given the facts in evidence in this case. so unfortunately they showed these pictures of are of very derogatory, did not portray him on the night in question. we probably have some work to do both with our laws, also in how we as americans view the value of racial minorities i