you know, it's kind of sleazy, slimy, secret money that people -- >> stephen: no but datda. the money is not secret. the money is public. the men are secret. >> the folks giving the money are seek yet. >> stephen: are secret. would you lick to apologize to the money now. you called the money secret. or do you have something against money, ma'am? >> i'm pretty sure if missourians knew who was giving this money they would appreciate the enemies i've made. i think they'd be proud of me if they knew who was page for it because i don't think the folks looking after. >> stephen: if people knew, the men or women -- >> or women. >> stephen: might face attack ads you are facing. >> wouldn't that be unfair. [ laughter ] >> stephen: but their private individuals. you are a public figure. you deserve at takes ads -- attack ads. >> i certainly expect attack ads in commercial but what i don't expect is for it all to be secret. we're trying to fight back, stephen, with little bits of money. $5 clairemccaskill.com. >> stephen: you want $5. how much of this untraceable money has been running