dave loos standing in the way and his austin peay governors. >> kyle: dave loos was outstanding athlete himself and in four hall of fames, which i thought was amazing. >> matt: one of the hall of fames he was in is the st. louis amateur baseball hall of fame. >> kyle: yeah. >> matt: dave loos was an all-conference short stop for the memphis tigers. memphis state when he was there. he was also the starting point guard for the tigers 40 years ago. back at rupp arena, one of the last time he was here was spectator for final four, where final four upset georgetown. and roberson. perfect. again, the austin peay big men stepping out on the floor, showing range on the jump-shot. kentucky big men slow to defend. wall gives it up. >> matt: to liggins. patterson. oh, nearly spectacular tip-in. justin blake on the double. >> kyle: austin peay being patient. working the shot clock down. trying to execute to get the good shot. >> matt: what is interesting here is campbell has yet to score in the ballgame. he had 11 games where he scored in double figures. four on the shot clock. campbell fires away.

together dave and faith represented all that was right and good about life in the naval service. they were partners and best friends to the joy and pain of countless deployments, household moves, and the pressures of ever increasing responsibilities for the safety of our nation's greatest treasure. the young men and women who wear the uniform of our military. madam speaker, i ask that we pause to reflect upon the many contributions admiral dave stone made to our country and the world and to thank faith stone for inspiring her husband to serve us all so proudly. through the pain and frustration of losing this great shipmate every who knew, loved, and spreekted dave is comforted by the fact that today there are countless midshipman at indianapolis -- annapolis who will follow his model. therein lies the greatness of the united states navy and our nation and our shipmate and classmate dave stone. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: miss rinet. ms. ros-lehtinen: thank you, mr. speaker. i ask unanimous consent that i be given the five minutes allotted now. th

r more on how the money was spent and wh results it did or did t produce, we turn to dave levinthal of the centefor responsive pitics, a not-for- profit group that tracks mon politics. nice to have you here. some peoe say unless you're the table you're on the menu and that what drives loyists to do what they do. how ch money was really spent and on what? >> orall, you've had $2.5 billion spt on lobbying in neral. and a od portion of that has been spent on health car refo legislation. it's just taken so lg for this to develop. months and months anmonths. you've had so many diffent entities that have had an interest in it. you talked abo health care, but that industry alone just only one ofhe several industries that havectually spent moy to lobby the federal governme. the u. chamber of commerce, for example,as spent a ton of money potentially tens millions of doars on health ca reform. when you add it all , it could potentially be one o the most if not e most biggest lobbyingfforts ever on a sgle piece of legislation that the united states has ever seen. >> ifill: how doest compare? the

for more on how the money was spent and what results it did or did not produce, we turn to dave levinthal of the center for responsive politics, a not-for- profit group that tracks money in politics. nice to have you here. some people say unless you're at the table you're on the menu and that is what drives lobbyists to do what they do. how much money was really spent and on what? >> overall, you've had $2.5 billion spent on lobbying in general. and a good portion of that has been spent on health care reform legislation. it's just taken so long for this to develop. months and months and months. you've had so many different entities that have had an interest in it. you talked about health care, but that industry alone is just only one of the several industries that have actually spent money to lobby the federal government. the u.s. chamber of commerce, for example, has spent a ton of money potentially tens of millions of dollars on health care reform. when you add it all up, it could potentially be one of the most if not the most biggest lobbying efforts ever on a single piece of legislati

whatever dave loos said at halftime worked. governors still in the game. oh! blue! time! time out. i touched it. i touched the ball before it went out, coach. come on, alex, the ref did not call that! you gotta be kidding me, alex! it's the championship game! talk to him, coach. i touched, it's their ball. don't foul them when they inbound. team on 'three.' one, two, three. nice going, alex. sorry coach. alex! good call.d for kepz at halftime has been whittled to six. if you're just settling in the easy chair, here is what has happened since halftime. the injury here to john wall. he was not hurt seriously, because he's walking out on the floor. watch fraley stick it back in patterson's face. the block by fraley. channels comes down. hits his fourth three-pointer of the ballgame. a 12-212-2. wall just lost the ball. his son told him why don't you give him the halftime talk before the game. i hate to tell the guys they stink before the game starts. ? you told them they stink at halftime, the motivation worked again, coach. you're in the ballgame. campbell with three with two. channe

dave is a small business owner, mr. president. last year he saw his insurance premiums skyrocket 27% for his employees. and when he questioned this unbelievable increase, his insurance company said all he needed to do to save money was just to stop offering tkofrpblg his employees -- offering coverage to his employees. when he looked into this, when dave checked out what that might involve, he found out nearly half of his workforce would be ineligible for coverage because of preexisting conditions and that those who could obtain coverage were priced out, couldn't even afford it. i hear this story time and time again. small business owners who want to do the right thing but whoepbd up facing annual -- who end up facing annual double-digit increases in their costs. small businesses pay on average more than 18% than large employers for the same level of coverage. the status quo -- and presiding officer has been articulate and eloquent and involved in this fight, he knows it's unacceptable. and we can't kick the can down the road any

you have dave anderson putting the ball in his hands. he has to be aggressive attacking. >> barry: unusual for fields to be in foul trouble. pilgrim misses the three. the rebound. >> marques: how much more would that secure your case in the game? if you can get landry fields out of the game for a stretch here late in the second half. >> barry: they picked up anderson's double-clutch, and pilgrim rejects it. anderson one on one with shiller. now stanford gets help. >> that's the second time pilgrim has done a nice job on the right side. trotter is comes in for landry fields. >> barry: baseline, kickout for gulley. gulley leads for anderson. tough three, and he gets it. >> marques: landry fields with three fouls. you can't close out aggressively. he gets more time to get a he bead on the bucket. >> barry: anderson with 22. a little shot. muonelo comes away with it ahead to anderson. one on two all the way, and a foul. >> marques: the official takes away the bucket. but that finish was a thing of beauty. the setup may have been a bit flawed

of kentucky, dave on the line for independence. -- independents.i -- world war ii, korea, and they made a truck driver out of me, and i was over there a few months. they started building the berlin wall. then they turned around, and my mother almost died, so they sent me home by plane, and return to me by plane. the following summer, the cuba crisis come up, and that was more. no fooling around, no weekends off. the following summer, my mom was sick again, and my priest and my dad contacted the company, and they said, "you just want to go home." three weeks later, she died. if you think that did not tell me up, you are mistaken. -- did not tear me up, you are mistaken. oh, i hated that captain so bad. they tried to put me on a medical discharge, and i fought my way out of that, thank god, and got my honorable discharge. what i really want to bring up is the fact that after that, there was a general smacking people in the face for being cowards, but at any rate, i did not feel that way about myself. i had great medical care until the late 1990's fro

of kentucky, dave on the line for independence. -- independents.at i felt so sorry for those guys in world war iii, correa, because -- will war ii -- world war ii, korea, and they made a truck driver out of me, and i was over there a few months. they started building the berlin wall. then they turned around, and my mother almost died, so they sent me home by plane, and return to me by plane. the following summer, the cuba crisis come up, and that was more. no fooling around, no weekends off. the following summer, my mom was sick again, and my priest and my dad contacted the company, and they said, "you just want to go home." three weeks later, she died. if you think that did not tell me up, you are mistaken. -- did not tear me up, you are mistaken. oh, i hated that captain so bad. they tried to put me on a medical discharge, and i fought my way out of that, thank god, and got my honorable discharge. what i really want to bring up is the fact that after that, there was a general smacking people in the face for being cowards, but at any rate, i did n

next up is dave in chicago on our line for independents. good morning dave. caller: hi.hink it shows in your newspaper that your reading that they're concernqd about how to house united states citizens of terrorist. guantanamo has been away to get around the geneva convention the last hundred years. host: dave, the town, thompson illinois. how far is that from chicago? caller: think about 100 miles west of chicago. host: and say they go ahead with this plan to move some of the detainees or all of them though to this prison in thompson, illinois. õdo you feel more concerned you area of the country might come under attack from terrorists? caller: no, i feel the whole country will be under attack by administration because they're terrorists so they'll accuse all these citizens from this and now they don't have to keep the lawyers away from them. they can do it right here in illinois. host: gene new jersey ft. lauderdale? caller: good morning. what really concerns me is the air space that we have áo protect where as in cuba the cuban government takes care of air space and pe

but my brother dave talk this out of it. there's always the paperback. instead of who is to win, we ask a different question. why do some issues fell and why do some succeed? we look for great successes and monumental failures. we wanted to look for patterns. we wanted to look at the success of the marshall plan to the integration reform and vietnam. we reviewed all of these initiatives. we realized that it would require a small army of individuals who understood the government and were willing to work for free. the answer was clear. we needed cred students. [laughter] with of the help of more than 70 grad student, we -- we needed grad students. [laughter] we were looking for a path to success. my co-author and die each bring a different perspective to this issue. john is an engineer by training, and he developed a process map for making toast in the morning. like any good engineer, he said we need to look at this and break it down into discrete processes. while all of these initiatives were different, they followed a very predictable path, a journey to

in terms of what we are going to be able to do -- we do not know what we do not know, dave.while i was there, i was told by the general that they had increased pay by 40%. he told me that the month below -- before, they fell 2000 short in terms of recruiting, and this year, i have told us there was over $3,000 -- 3000. so if that continues to takeoff, and suddenly things are looking much better in terms of force availability in the south, i think we can do a lot. we have got to authority to take the gloves off with regards to our police training programs, and so, we are going to turn of the volume on that. 50 sounds great, but that is really a fraction of what we need to in some of these areas that we are going to go and villages, -- a fraction of what we need in some of these areas. what we saw in iraq was very effective, coordination centers that said, hey, please, you have got it. -- police, you have got it. if you cannot take care of it, call in people, and then you start to take care of the responsibility, so the key to all of that is the support of the people. you have

of kentucky, dave on the line for independence. -- independents. caller: i joined the army that i felt so sorry for those guys in world war iii, correa, because -- will war ii -- world war ii, korea, and they made a truck driver out of me, and i was over there a few months. they started building the berlin wall. then they turned around, and my mother almost died, so they sent me home by plane, and return to me by plane. the following summer, the cuba crisis come up, and that was more. no fooling around, no weekends off. the following summer, my mom was sick again, and my priest and my dad contacted the company, and they said, "you just want to go home." three weeks later, she died. if you think that did not tell me up, you are mistaken. -- did not tear me up, you are mistaken. oh, i hated that captain so bad. they tried to put me on a medical discharge, and i fought my way out of that, thank god, and got my honorable discharge. what i really want to bring up is the fact that after that, there was a general smacking people in the face for being cowa

i read a book by an economist named dave gilson where he talked about how genius comes into quoted veryerent forms. he talked about the conceptual innovator who has a big old idea and he talks about the experiment of a bidder who is the person who succeeds through trial and error. the conceptual innovator is the prodigy. the person who worked through trial and error is the late bloomer. i love that summit because he was dignifying a late bloomer. i had a devil of a time finding the right story to illustrate that point. when i have an academic argument, i like to find narratives' to complete it. this was hard to find the right ones. sometimes you have to be persistent. >> you focused on two people? >> i ended up choosing a novelist from dallasc3v who wroa collection of short stories and which is magical. he was my late bloomer. he published that book in his late-40's effort sitting as kitchen table in dallas and writing. my prodigy was jonathan saffron fours. he wrote a book about vegetarianism. they are contrast and the beautifully illustrated what the economist was talking about. i don

it is dave ferociously commodity. lead paint is still in apartments. if we cleaned of the problem under per-cent we would get more than that and crime reduction. we have it terrible pair of problems reno is new it did seem half as much cursor ration 10 years from now because i'm not predicting we can make the criminal-justice system and other agencies do the job that has to be done. when experiment took two years to persuade a bunch of district of columbia judges to try sanctions instead of mandatory treatment as a way to do with heroin use. he took two weeks for the heroin users under sanctions to stop using heroin. and the conclusion was changing addict behavior is easy but changing the judge behavior is hard. [laughter] the terminals can respond if we can't get public-service to respond. that is a challenge in front of us who do not have to mix of the rear now excepting and can we get beyond the quest of revenge and do pass to be done to control crime and reduce the number of people behind bars. thank you very much. [applause] i think we have time f

also covered dave collins book on columbine. here's a look at. >> eric's journal is filled with hate, hate, hate all the way through. it starts up cleanup onward by the opening night is i hate the act in world and it paid on every page. he started out wanting to kill any ended up killing over the course of the year. but with dylan it's completely different. dillon spent two years writing his journal and the most common word in his journal is love. it's completely unexpected trade to meet dylan was the revelation of his case. he was a loving and sensitive boy with a whole lot of anger, but his anger was mostly direct it in word. he was angry at himself for being such a loser, such an outcast. he wasn't. it was objectively untrue, but that's how he thought. >> host: to atlanta we go. here is an independent color. what was your favorite nonfiction book of 2009? oligo good morning and merry christmas. my favorite book is douglas black men. i believe he cover this book on c-span as well. the subtitle is displacement of black american

of course rip dewitt dave mant but there were freedom riders from elsewhere who were like we have no idea what that meant. one more. >> of the total number of the freedom riders how many were arrested? >> all of them in jackson. there were obviously riders who participated from washington into alabama. they were not always arrested. and then there were several other rides to read in florida and texas and other places around the south all in all about 400 riders total that some of the jackson was about 328 and they were all uniformly arrested. >> national hagel largest contingency of writers. tennessee state had 23 and fists, vanderbilt, american baptist, we have i think over 40 riders and so was the largest percentage of riders came from national tennessee. >> one more. >> did you get the sense you were making history giving all of this? >> no. >> one more or is that it? that's it. come talk to us upstairs. thank you. [applause] nicely done, good job. [inaudible conversations] >> eric etheridge is former editor for rolling stone, harper's and new york observer. this event was pof the

in the year following his cancer diagnosis, dave its insurance rates went up 80%, and that was just the beginning. within seven years david was paying $28,000 a year in premiums. he had gone from roughly $400 a month to more than $2,000 a month in seven years, and he had a $2,500 deductible, not to mention out of pocket expenses. he's self-employed, makes a decent living about $75,000 in year. but imagine taking $2,000 out of your paycheck every month just for health insurance. he tried. 12 days after his surgery, incidentally, david, who is not easy by any measure, flew into a war zone to shoot video. he was still wearing a chemotherapy pump when he arrived for work. he pushes himself to pay his bills but it's been a losing battle. what started as a 5,000-dollar debt in the year 2000 grew to a 70,000-dollar debt by 2003, and a large portion of it came from medical bills. david said but the point of having insurance was to keep you out of bankruptcy, not put you in it. it's a valid point. insurance is meant to be a promise of protection, but for too many people it isn't enough. for davi

really worked on these issues, lee peeler, susan grant, marc rotenberg, jeff chester was around here, dave're going to help us do that as we try to think through these complex issues. now, i recently spoke about, i was on a panel about louis brandeis, one of the intellectual fathers of the federal trade commission, of course, who was also a turn of the last century reformer, supreme court justice, and in 1890 brandeis and his partner, samuel warren, authored a seminal law review article on privacy. and they wrote, i quote -- and i'm quoting, quote, numerous mechanical devices threaten to make good the prediction that what is whispered in the closet shall be proclaimed on the housetops. and what they were concerned about then was photography. photography in newspapers and sort of peeping toms. now, their work was enormously influential and prophetic in some ways, and it helped to shape american jurisprudence on privacy over the course of the 20th century, and, of course, brandeis' thinking continued when he was on the supreme court particularly, i think, in ohm stead where he wrote that the

. -- dave on the line for democrats. caller: you could go through your house without a warrant.it shows how frail freedom can really be. thank you. guest: i have the opposite view. i believe freedom is strong, natural. you have people in iran who have never lived in a free country. they crave this freedom. i would have the opposite message from 9/11. freedom is strong, it is hard to take away. few people agree with everything that was done after 9/11, but i do not believe freedom is frail. guest: i would not agree with their depiction of the patriot act, but there is a point to be taken that freedom is strong, but it is something -- eternal vigilance is required. you do have to keep an eye -- and this is coming from a big government liberal. you have to keep your eye on what they are doing. you have to make sure they do not encroach too much. host: in terms of security forces privacy issues -- versus privacy issues, what would you say to those who say, in light of what happened over the christmas weekend with the flight going to detroit, that people still want to hold onto their

means committee can join in with the other committees under the leadership of our great speaker and dave obey to be able to say, this is not all we want to do, this is all we can do. maybe over the holidays you might get back to your leadership and say, we've been faithful, but we found out that many in our districts have lost jobs, lost their home, lost their health insurance and really lost hope. just say no is not going to work. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from wisconsin reserves. the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. lewis: madam speaker, i recognize the ranking member of the ways and means committee for two minutes, mr. camp. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from michigan is recognized for two minutes. mr. camp: i thank the gentleman for yielding. albert einstein once said, "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." even though their stimulus bill hasn't created a single job and has resulted in 10% unemployment, house democrats have brought to the floor a s

>> thank you very much, dave. thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for coming to this meeting. i hope you will be as interested as we were when we were writing the report appeared my part of this is short and simple -- it is that while we were writing a larger report dealing with budget process, it became apparent that our debt was running away from us and we had to do something about this policy before we could continue our work on budget process. so this report is step one and it will be followed by a budget process report, which we hope will help the congress and the president, to some of these conclusions that we are laying on them today. the commission has said we asked the congress and the president to work together to commit immediately to stabilizing the debt as a percentage of gdp. we understand the debt as a percentage of gdp is up a little more than 10% this year. and it is headed north of 80% by the year 2018. we are saying let's stabilize that debt. and step two, you have to develop a specific and credible program in 2010 -- that, of course, is a large order for co

. -- dave on the line for democrats. caller: you could go through your house without a warrant.it shows how frail freedom can really be. thank you. guest: i have the opposite view. i believe freedom is strong, natural. you have people in iran who have never lived in a free country. they crave this freedom. i would have the opposite message from 9/11. freedom is strong, it is hard to take away. few people agree with everything that was done after 9/11, but i do not believe freedom is frail. guest: i would not agree with their depiction of the patriot act, but there is a point to be taken that freedom is strong, but it is something -- eternal vigilance is required. you do have to keep an eye -- and this is coming from a big government liberal. you have to keep your eye on what they are doing. you have to make sure they do not encroach too much. host: in terms of security forces privacy issues -- versus privacy issues, what would you say to those who say, in light of what happened over the christmas weekend with the flight going to detroit, that people still want to hold onto their

i know my washington state colleague, congressman dave reichert who spent more than 40 years in law enforcement, understands the human cost of this tragedy and knows the risk all officers face each and every day to ensure that we're safe in our homes and safe in our community. i yield to congressman reichert. mr. reichert: i thank the gentleman for yielding. i know sometime it's hard to pause for a second in the busy lives we lead hear in the capitol of this great country, but today we must. we must stop and pause and think about first of all how safe we are and why. because men and women who are wearing the uniform across this country sacrificed their lives for us. and on sunday morning, two days ago, three police officers and their sergeant went to work. went to work. they paused for a moment at the coffee shop, talking about the day about to begin. somebody walked in, and took their lives away. all four. in total, they left behind nine children, and this was just one month after the seattle police officer by the name of timothy brenton was ambushed and murdered who leaves behind two more chi

susan grant, marc rosenberg, dave morgan, and so really at this point it will be a terrific workshop.unt and you're going to help us do that as we try to think through these complex issues. i recently spoke at a panel about louis brandeis, one of the intellectual fathers of the federal trade commission. he was also a world-renowned reformer, supreme court justice, and in 1890, brandeis and his partner several war and authored a seminal law review article on privacy. they wrote, "numerous mechanical devices threaten to make good the prediction that what is whispered in the closet shall be proclaimed from the housetops." what they were concerned about them was photography. photography in newspapers and peeping toms. their work was enormously influential and prophetic in some ways in that it helped shape american jurisprudence on privacy over the course of the 20th-century. brandeis' thinking continued when he was on the supreme court, particularly in olmstead where he wrote that the right to be left alone was most important. the right to be let alone was the most sacred of right, the ri

and i would name the minority clerk, dena barren, and on the majority side, dave gibbons and allison peers and jeannine. and on our side, i want to give the strongest praise to our staff and to our clerk and that staff, kate who has given me a list who doesn't have her name on it. she is so modest here. kate, laura, alex, sylvia garcia, who is in this lengthened process a replacement in the middle of the process of bringing out this legislation for a previous staff member who has now gone on to greener pastures. and with that i am prepared to yield time if the gentleman has no other -- i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from iowa is recognized. mr. latham: i thank the speaker once again, and i want to express my appreciation to the chairman for his patience. this has been a difficult process, and like he mentioned, we've started and stopped and back and forth, but it's been a real pleasure for me in my first year on this subcommittee to work with the chairman. while we don't always agree on everything but we always h

guest: dave, i got a little suggestion -- there is a gal who is your state treasurer right now and she will be very good governor and i am supporting her. i'm a rancher, a farmer, and the beach prices are down last year -- beet prices are down from last year. the stuff that makes your beer -- it has dropped from $20 to about $8. core inflation in food is gone. farmers are not getting any more money. if some of the marketers and processors are buying their raw product for less money and charging more money toward the end product, -- for the city to product, we need to get after them. that seems to be on -- for the end product. we need to get after them. that seems to be unfair. host: is it part of the plan for democratic governors of the democratic candidate to talk about reaching beyond u.s. borders to try to establish relationships with other countries that can help boost the economies of the various states they are running? guest: we need to build relationships right out of graduate school, i went to saudi arabia, involved in building the world's largest dairy farm. i stayed there an

host: shelton, conn., dave on the independent mind. -- on the independent line. lakeland. she worked very hard for barack obama. she showed great leadership -- hillary clinton. host: we are listening. caller: she is a team player and she campaign very, very hard for the presidency and i see her running for president in 2012. host: the front page of "the chicago tribune." illinois to take detainees. next call is from laura in texas on the republican line. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. i have to say it would have to be ron paul, hands down. the reason why i would say this is he is truly for all americans and he is trying to hold the federal reserve accountable. and by doing that -- if we could just tax them we could take care of all of our problems. by doing that he is saying, no, you don't run america, but americans run america. i wish we could get back to that. republicans and democrats are one party. we need a true second party, ron paul. host: the latest on the copenhagen conference on climate change. rich nations step up pressure on beiji

well, just as the governor, governor dave hyde amendment said yesterday he had nothing to do with that deal and called the overhaul bill that is for nebraska and bad news for america. governor heinemann said he did not ask for a deal just a fair deal. we know that in order to get 60 votes to majority leader had to cut a special deal with the senator from vermont, one senator from vermont threatened to vote against the bill but then low and behold the managers package included $600 billion benefiting only that one state. the senator threatened to vote no decided to vote yes after that special deal was concluded. "the new york times" list several other sweetheart deal to produce this monstrosity piece of legislation. the intended beneficiaries though in many institute were identified and a vague and sort of cryptic way. individuals exposed to environmental health hazards recognizes health emergency in a declaration issued by the federal government. in june the 17th. while there's only one state that would qualify for that, notwithstanding the sort of vague description designed to hide th

iraq before he came to afghanistan with only five months off between those two deployments and then davesilverman works in my personal staff obviously another naval officer. >> great. thank you very much. we'll begin our questioning now and i'm first going to recognize the gentleman from texas, mr. green, for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman and thank you for continuing the hearing and i want to thank both ambassador eikenberry and general mcchrystal for what you do and your leadership you're doing for our young men and women not only serving in the in military but obviously in the civilian side, having been the embassy in afghanistan a couple times and been hosted there, it's not the plush area anyone ever thinks but i appreciate what y'all do and i know members of congress do. general mcchrystal there, are currently 94,000 afghan soldiers on the ground and current plans call for increasing the number to 134 by october of next year. there are currently bottom 91,000 afghan police officers on the ground and currently calling for boosting to 966,800 by next october make a total of

with respect to pakistan and there's a lot going on and i give general dave mckiernan effort, we tried several times and general mcchrystal has met with general kiyani several times. we are working to synchronize the campaign if you will so that we don't have the kind of impact. we sent the marines in marines in helmand and not many marines went across the border. we recognize the recruiting, retaining and retention problems we have on the asf and not unlike we have to incentivize that. we also have to create a security environment in which they can be recruited, trained and sustain that environment over time. >> thank you. >> i thank the gentleman. mr. turner? >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. secretary, i appreciate all of you being here today. i think one of the things you can tell is that members of this committee are struggling and they're struggling because they are hearing a lot of things that are contrary to policies we've heard before. i mean, you yourself have heard that in the past you were adamantly opposed to declines yet we're dealing with a july 2011 deadline that, admiral

that led to a confrontation on the floor, a physical confrontation between maxine waters and dave obey. i had lunch with david obey afterwards, and that did not happen. there was a theoretical shoving match because of the earmark for the school system in l.a. it was named after her, and those against the rules of the house. -- and goes against the rules of the house. and of course, the bridges to nowhere. how many of you remember the bridges to nowehre? -- nowhere? it was a bridge in alaska to an airport where there is land of their being developed by the sun that may have benefited -- by some that may have benefited by this. there were also the ferries to nowhere, under the under security appropriation. -- under the homeland security procreation -- appropraition. -- an appropriation. then there was campaign finance reform that was another stream, and part of the media stream of reform in 2007. it was restrictions on lobbyists from bundling. how many of you know what bundling is? somebody help me out. i forgot what bundling is. justin? >> giving campaign contributions, where you're lim

>> thank you very much, dave and ladies and gentlemen for coming to this meeting. i hope he will be as interested as we were when we were writing the report. mauney part of this is short and simple. while we were writing a larger report dealing with budget process it became apparent that our debt was running away with less us and we had to do something about fiscal policy before we could continue our work on budget process. so this report is step one and will be followed by budget process report which we hope will help the congress and the president come to some of these conclusions that we are laying on them today. the commission has said we asked the congress and president to work together to commit immediately to stabilize the debt as a percentage of gdp. you understand that debt to as a percent of gdp is up a little more than 10% this year and is headed north of 80% by the year 2018. so we are saying let's stabilize that debt. and we say as step to you have to develop a specific and credible program in 2010. that is of course a large order for congress. its cam

in 2006, under the leadership of dave frazier, the task force took command of regional command south. today, under canadian leadership, task force kandahar, commands to secure and stabilize kandahar city, our main effort on the ground in afghanistan now. i know i can sometimes feel as though canadian efforts in afghanistan are underappreciated. that's not the case inside afghanistan. we have the courage and determination of canadian forces are an inspiration. many countries have devoted a significant proportion of their national resources to this mission in afghanistan. and canada's absolutely a leader in this regard. this includes the young men and women you send abroad who are willing to pay the highest price to defend the afghans and the rest of us from threats that flourish in an unstable afghan state. we owe those troops our support, but that support must be informed by an understanding of the situation, the mission and the chances for success and it's in this spirit of promoting that level of understanding that i'm here today. let me talk about the situation in afghanistan as i

why pay to highlight the importance of that disclosure is really not that affect dave into duping consumers into these types of transactions. >> i just like to thank you because i always try to teach my kids the value. >> mr. france, anything else we need to be aware of that might be helpful in preventing this fraud from happening in the future? >> i think one of the biggest upset could be done is like had been mentioned earlier is to actually hold these reputable or at one time reputable companies responsible for allowing these other sites to come in and do that and essentially they are one in the same. they may not be taking as much money, but by allowing these other companies to come and they're just as guilty. and if we can discourage them from allowing these companies then, then i think we'll see a lot less of this problem in the future. >> thank you. ms. lindquist? >> i agree with mr. france that the companies of the reputable websites and to be held more responsible about to their affiliated with. >> thank you again mr. chairman. i think we got some good direction from our witnesses.

means committee can join in with the other committees under the leadership of our great speaker and davebey to be able to say, this is not all we want to do, this is all we can do. maybe over the holidays you might get back to your leadership and say, we've been faithful, but we found out that many in our districts have lost jobs, lost their home, lost their health insurance and really lost hope. just say no is not going to work. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from wisconsin reserves. the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. lewis: madam speaker, i recognize the ranking member of the ways and means committee for two minutes, mr. camp. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from michigan is recognized for two minutes. mr. camp: i thank the gentleman for yielding. albert einstein once said, "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." even though their stimulus bill hasn't created a single job and has resulted in 10% unemployment, house democrats have brought to the floor a sti

so this morning with our two colleagues at the beginning, with chairman greenspan and dave walker, who'sellion out in the provinces against the debt, we're going to consider what will happen if we don't deal with this and then how can we best deal with it to literally secure the future of our country. i tell you one reason why there's such anger at washington today among the american people is, of course, about the economy. but it is also because the economic troubles have let most every family i know to tighten their belt, to put their money away to save some, not spend so much, but they're watching us and we're not doing it. and this concern has obviously agitated people, affected the current debate over health care reform. it's certainly part of what i was so concerned about creating a new public government insurance option and expanding medicare at this time. anyway, that's my opening statement. i thank everybody for being here. i hope this hearing can help, frankly, to build a rebellion against the national debt to the point where we finally do something about it. senator collins. >

i keep hearing about children are going to benefit right away -- no longer being able to dave -- notave health care coverage because of pre-existing conditions. what did we do with regard to schip? me and my husband are responsible parents, we take care of our children. i love the way the government this entitles people, say you go out and bought his children and the government will take care of it and then when you look of those who make between 40,000 up to $100,000, we will be what so bad when it comes to our coverage we will not be able to afford it. you tell me how it is fair, carol, and down in florida i love the way asked her the question the biggest fear -- of course, because she is getting everything taking care of down there in florida. absolute travesty for this country. host: minnesota, the white on the democratic line. caller: -- host: dwight on the democratic line. caller: i am sick and tired of people say this is terrible and said they don't want to pay for abortions but tax dollars. i doubt there are people making a quarter billion dollars a year policies. but the vas

. >> dave alexander from reuters.do you anticipate he will have another meetings with north koreans before the start of the six-party talks and can you address the issue of the plan and thailand -- [inaudible] >> first we have not agreed on a subject on the second meeting. in fact we didn't really discuss it. i wouldn't rule it out but i wouldn't rule it in either. on the other hand we have specified that this meeting took place on the effect of the six party talk as to the plan as you know the facts are still being developed. we think this is a good example of why sanctions are effective and the importance of sanctions. and this process will play out in the procedures of the united nations to read it will go to the sanctions committee etc. and the u.s. obviously will follow this with interest. >> meshaal with national public radio. i wonder if you can elaborate what does it mean when you say i was the message and the fact that you apparently didn't meet with kim jong il or they sending you a message by not meeting wi

get the kind of growth we need this legislation, designed by the democratic caucus, put together by dave obey, is an effort to do that. we believe we can build on the success we have had in the recovery program. none of this is easy. none of this year has been easy, but it has been wildly successful. maybe that is the reason why the speaker was the third runner-up and in person of the year. >> let me just say this. mr. miller is chair of education and labor and our policy committee. he has been a major force in shaping and jobs initiative. our mastrestro in the jobs bill has been chairman obey, especially when he is dealing with all the variables of dealing with the united states senate. he has the idealism and the ideas. he has the integrity, and he has the institutional memory and the temperament. i would not go that far. we are in the business of hyperbole, but i would not go that far. temperament aside, a great leader. chairman obey. >> i had an old friend in wisconsin and a by the name of herbie. at moments like this, he would say, is getting deep in here. i want to say thank you to

minimal increase in 2009, a minimum increase in 2010 and god bless them, our appropriations chair, dave obey, added $20 million to trio this cycle but after all of the negotiations with the senate, only $5 million was retained in that program. what are the consequences of reducing these vital services to trio students and our remaining competitiveness in the world? we need at least $200 million for this program. ms. jackson lee: if the gentlelady would yield, you're eloquent in crafting the frustrations that you experience and so many of us experience and you know what the answer is? they just don't get it. not the friends and allies who work so hard, chairman of the appropriations committee on the house side, so many members who understand what trio means, but the overall thinkers about education and how to cut dollars just don't get it. trio costs an average of about $1,000 pursuant to per year. $1,000. pell is estimated to spend approximately $25 billion helping over seven million students get aid. the combination of a trio effort for a student counters the tragedy and let me just re

means committee can join in with the other committees under the leadership of our great speaker and dave to be able to say, this is not all we want to do, this is all we can do. maybe over the holidays you might get back to your leadership and say, we've been faithful, but we found out that many in our districts have lost jobs, lost their home, lost their health insurance and really lost hope. just say no is not going to work. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from wisconsin reserves. the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. lewis: madam speaker, i recognize the ranking member of the ways and means committee for two minutes, mr. camp. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from michigan is recognized for two minutes. mr. camp: i thank the gentleman for yielding. albert einstein once said, "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." even though their stimulus bill hasn't created a single job and has resulted in 10% unemployment, house democrats have brought to the floor a stimul

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so this morning with our two colleagues at the beginning, with chairman greenspan and dave walker, who's leading the rebellion out in the provinces against the debt, we're going to consider what will happen if we don't deal with this and then how can we best deal with it to literally secure the future of our country. i tell you one reason why there's such anger at washington today among the american people is, of course, about the economy. but it is also because the economic troubles have let most every family i know to tighten their belt, to put their money away to save some, not spend so much, but they're watching us and we're not doing it. and this concern has obviously agitated people, affected the current debate over health care reform. it's certainly part of what i was so concerned about creating a new public government insurance option and expanding medicare at this time. anyway, that's my opening statement. i thank everybody for being here. i hope this hearing can help, frankly, to build a rebellion against the national debt to the point where we finally do something about it. se

language for years and was pulled out after being out there for some time after some recent crashes dave revisit that issue, which is why the letter urged them to move forward. but as you might imagine, the airlines are not very receptive to these -- to the idea that lower in flight times for the crew because obviously you're going to have to hire more pilots and that costs more and its way to impact scheduling and everything else. but i'm wondering, this issue of commutes before somebody gets on a plane to fly a plane and the way you calculate the limits the pilots, the number of hours they can fly -- how new -- with talked about this plan want to hear your thoughts and perspectives how that can be addressed because that is clearly very much at issue in this particular incident where you had pilots that came and, were sick, had had long commutes, sleeping where it for the crew is, wherever it is the log hours sleeping. but clearly ads to the amount of time that they've been flying and have been up, and i'm sure it's got to affect their ability than to be alert when it comes time to actu

iraq before he came to afghanistan with only five months off between those two deployments and then dave silverman works in my personal staff obviously another naval officer. >> great. thank you very much. we'll begin our questioning now and i'm first going to recognize the gentleman from texas, mr. green, for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman and thank you for continuing the hearing and i want to thank both ambassador eikenberry and general mcchrystal for what you do and your leadership you're doing for our young men and women not only serving in the in military but obviously in the civilian side, having been the embassy in afghanistan a couple times and been hosted there, it's not the plush area anyone ever thinks but i appreciate what y'all do and i know members of congress do. general mcchrystal there, are currently 94,000 afghan soldiers on the ground and current plans call for increasing the number to 134 by october of next year. there are currently bottom 91,000 afghan police officers on the ground and currently calling for boosting to 966,800 by next october make a total o

and then dave silverman works on my personal staff as well obvious he.er naval officer. >> thank you very much. we will begin are questioning a. and first i want to recognize the gentleman from texas, mr. green, for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and thank you for continuing the hearing. and i want to thank both ambassador eikenberry and general mcchrystal for what you do in your leadership. you are doing for our men and women. not only serving in military, but obviously in the civilian side. having been the embassy in afghanistan a couple of times and then hosted there, it's not the plush area anyone ever thinks. but i appreciate what you all do, and i know members of congress do. general mcchrystal, there are currently 94000 afghan soldiers on the ground. current plans call for increasing the number to 134 by october of next year. there are currently about 91000 afghan police officers on the ground, and currently calling for boosting the 96800 by next october. this would make a total of afghan secret force around 200 30,000, police and milit

dave ramphal of marines who had been to afghanistan before and literally only a few of them raised their hand. are you concerned that this initial wave of troops going in as part of the surge have so little experience and they may take longer to get up to speed? >> they have so little afghan experience. they certainly have an enormous amount of combat experience and they have combat leaders that no this is, no it is different in many ways and they recognize that and our training ahead of time but what i focus on and one of the areas that focused on for them that i want them to think a lot about this this whole issue of civilian casualties because they are the ones, the small unit leaders of the ones that are going to have to make these decisions and that is a huge change general mcchrystal put in place. it is an enormously positive because the number of casualties have gone down dramatically, get these are the young soldiers and marines that are going to have to make that decision and have to do it and split second time but there's also a piece of that that is tied to planning ahead of t

guest: dave, i got a little suggestion -- there is a gal who is your state treasurer right now and she will be very good governor and i am supporting her. i'm a rancher, a farmer, and the beach prices are down last year -- beet prices are down from last year. the stuff that makes your beer -- it has dropped from $20 to about $8. core inflation in food is gone. farmers are not getting any more money. if some of the marketers and processors are buying their raw product for less money and charging more money toward the end product, -- for the city to product, we need to get after them. that seems to be on -- for the end product. we need to get after them. that seems to be unfair. host: is it part of the plan for democratic governors of the democratic candidate to talk about reaching beyond u.s. borders to try to establish relationships with other countries that can help boost the economies of the various states they are running? guest: we need to build relationships right out of graduate school, i went to saudi arabia, involved in building the world's largest dairy farm. i stayed there an