our request for comment but joining me now by phone from cannonball, north dakota, is chairman dave archambaults talk about the meeting that was supposed to take place. what happened? >> thank you, joy. i was trying to meet with anybody in the white house, anybody under the trump administration just to hear our side before any decisions were made, and i think that's important for any leader to be well informed on any issue, any matter. and we had a -- i finally got through once, somebody from the department of interior was placed and i said i need to meet with somebody in the white house. it was with william kirkland, intergovernmental affairs. he said let's schedule a meeting for the following weeks. he said what days will work? i'm available monday through wednesday. i said, i need to meet as soon as possible. mon is perfect. i started scheduling my flight. he called me back and said i can't meet with you monday, wednesday is the only day that works. on that monday we had a status conference call with the judge and the judge had asked the department of justice when the -- they were going to m