attorney and senior fbi official, and dave aronberg, state attorney for palm beach county. ve, take us into what we've seen so far inside the courtroom. this is some intense back and forth, and the judge is not very happy. >> no, they really should have cameras in the courtroom, jose. this is ridiculous. what are they trying to hide? we need a more transparent judicial process because there's going to be so much information spread about what really went on. i know chris kise, trump's lawyer, he was a former solicitor general of florida, well-respected. he is no political hack, so when he gets up and says that donald trump is the former and future president of the united states, he's clearly playing to an audience of one. they know that trump's goose is cooked in this case. he's losing this case in front of judge engoron, they're playing for the appeal. that's what all this stuff is about. >> so how do you play for the appeal when much of this is really about other things? i mean, the former president saying this is an unfair trial. you know, there are a lot of back and forth

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also with us, state attorney for palm beach county, florida, dave aronberg.ce here. he was examined by the attorney general last week, but not cross examined by any of the trump side's attorneys. the reason is a fairly technical one, but it matters. when you cross examine a witness, you are generally limited to the scope or the topics that were explored during a general examination. therefore, if team trump wants to go beyond that and get trump jr. to talk about things that weren't the focus for the a.g., they needed to call him in their case in chief. that's what we can expect them to do today. they're largely going to focus on two components that the a.g. has to prove, intent and materiality. in both cases, they're going to try to use donald trump jr., who was effectively in control of the trump organization between 2017 and 2021 with a brief blip of control going back to his father and then again he and his brother now run the organization. they're going to use donald trump jr. to establish he didn't have any intent to defraud because he relied at all time