here is dave asmun. >> forget gridlock in washington. hitting us in our wallets. we are being hitting by real gridlock on the road. >> dave: a new report showing the average driver stuck in traffic is wasting a whopping $1880 a year. how do they want to fix it? with billions more with infrastructure spending wosmt it ork or only be a waste of time. welcome to forbes on fox. let's go with steve forbes and our panel. we got a full house today. steve, you say slam the brakes on this plan, why? >> because government involved is going to be a waste. you look at othernfrastructure fed ex and ups and railroads got out the way, great infrastructure, let's have the private equity involved, public-partnerships private partnerships and you get more for less. you get bloated wages and more bang for the buck by bringing in free market. >> dave: what is wrong with the free market taking the place of government boondoggles? >> for one thing it is not happening quickly enough. we have a serious problem that all of us should agree to. there are certain things like roadways that you

here is dave asmun. >> forget gridlock in washington. hitting us in our wallets. we are being hitting by real gridlock on the road. >> dave: a new report showing the average driver stuck in traffic is wasting a whopping $1880 a year. how do they want to fix it? with billions more with infrastructure spending wosmt it work or only be a waste of time. welcome to forbes on fox. let's go with steve forbes and our panel. we got a full house today. steve, you say slam the brakes on this plan, why? >> because government involved is going to be a waste. you look at other infrastructure fed ex and ups and railroads got out the way, great infrastructure, let's have the private equity involved, public-partnerships private partnerships and you get more for less. you get bloated wages and more bang for the buck by bringing in free market. >> dave: what is wrong with the free market taking the place of government boondoggles? >> for one thing it is not happening quickly enough. we have a serious problem that all of us should agree to. there are certain things like roadways that