let's bring in dave calhoun. dave, third quarter, you knew this was going to be a challenging quarter. do you feel like, okay, i can see some light at the table, whether it's the 787 dreamliner or other issues? >> i absolutely remain a complete optimist. it's important we open with a decent trajectory. i think fourth quarter will get even closer. i am an optimist i'm feeling good about where we are and where the year is going next year. >> the dreamliner, still haven't begun deliveries you are making progress there. what is your outlook for resuming the dreamliners. >> we're following a very deliberate process et cetera, but we dotted all the is, crossed all the ts, and started delivers we're going to do the exact same thing. the max out there is flying like crazy, and it is as reliability as any airplane in any fleet in the world. so i feel have very good about that process i can't predict delivery times i have a counterpart in the faa, and for abnorm at products, and you're saying we expect altogether, whether i