we on the ways and means committee will be very actively engaged in working with our chairman, dave campto provide good information to the chairman and to speaker boehner about what we want to do with tax reform. bottom line is this. we have to stop this massive tax hike that will hit american families and businesses at the end of the year. melissa: yeah. >> then pivot to fundamental tax reform. and they're going to be things on the table but increasing tax rates is not one of them. i will not vote to encrease tax rates. melissa: you know, congressman, this segment was supposed to be about the carbon tax, like everything else we can't talk about anything beyond this fiscal cliff. i mean it is getting in the way of everything iluding this segment. we had somebody on from the teachers union or teachers education, national education association i should say at beginning of the show who was completely stuck on this idea of we absolutely have to raise tas on the wealthy and on corporations. you heard the president earlier today. he echoed the same thing. he really doubled down with a hard-lin

that's been led by dave camp as chairman of the weigays & means committee. this is teed up and the country is dissatisfied with current tax code. it's an incredible opportunity for everybody to come together. i'm not here pumping sunshine tell you it's easy. what i'm saying is there's a unique opportunity to bring people together because nobody in their right mind should push us over this cliff. >> last question, quickly if you will. look, the president in his victory speech the other night said, deficit reform, he said tax reform, sbientitlement refo immigration reform. let's just do deficit and tax reform. do you believe that he is being sincere? do you believe that for whatever reasons and motives there's a new era coming in washington? >> i choose to hope that he is sincere, and the proof will be if how he chooses to lead. i know that he's got a willing speaker of the house that's willing to work on a good faith basis with the president of the united states. and i hope he takes him up on it. >> you know, i couldn't agree with you more. i choose to believ

he appointed dave camp, the chairman of ways and means, as well as fred upton, the chairman of the energynd commerce committee. so it's not just paul ryan who was put in this special position. there's these three guys also acting or have advisory roles. but that aside, i mean, the electorate for midterm elections are very different and tend to favor republicans especially because how the districts are carved up now. the electorate tends to be older. it tends to have less minorities. i don't know that this hinges on it, but i will say that when you look at polling right now, it does show that the burden is on republicans if there is a move over the fis kwcal cliff, rightw gallup and pew said republicans will be the ones taking the blame. >> nancy pelosi insists that raising tax rate for the rich is going to happen. let me show you this. >> we've seen talk about a possible compromise that would leave rates the same but cap deductions for high-income earners. is that something that's acceptable? >> no. >> not at all. no way. >> well, no. i mean, the president made it very clear in his campai

action with fiscal cliff and tax reform, entitlement stuff, always goes through ways and means -- dave camp, like fred upton. judiciary committee, he will make a bid for the science committee. he will find himself in competition with james sensenbrenner, who indicated he is interested in that job as well. ralph hall, the chairman now, term limits. transportation and infrastructure headed by john mica, he is term-limited in that role, and there are a few people will have seniority and the either have committee assignments or are not looked upon as viable. it looks like we are passing the baton to a new generation. bill schuster, the son of bud shuster, old transportation committee chairman, he is making a very strong play for the chairmanship of that. that will be just in time for congress to start thinking about another reauthorization of transportation programs, the highway bill, if you will. there is a short-term extension. they will have to revisit that in the 113th congress and representative schuster will at least have a strong claim to the gavel of that committee. >> i would just tick

with fiscal cliff, with tax reform, any kind of entitlement stuff also goes thruways and means, dave camp another michigander is not going anywhere either. the judiciary committee which is headed by lamar smith right now, he's term limited, he's going to make a bid for the science committee. and he will find himself in competition with james sensenbrenner who has indicated he is interest inside that job as well. ralph hall, who's the republican -- who's the chairman now is term limited. also the transportation and infrastructure committee which is now headed by john mica, and mica is term limited in that role, and there are a few people who have seniority, but they either have committee assignments or are not looked upon as viable. it looks as though we are passing the baton to a new generation. bill schuster, who is the son of bud schuster, the old transportation committee chairman, he is making a very strong play for the chairmanship of that. and that will be just in time for congress to start thinking about another reauthorization of transportation programs. the highway bill, if you wi

you'll have dave camp from ways and means and fred upton are all sitting in on the daily leadership meetingsall on the same page as far as the fiscal cliff goes. >> bill: for ryan, you've been writing about this, for ryan, this is a chance to maybe show some leadership and maybe pull off a deal. how does he approach it? we know what a hard liner he is, given the two budgets that he put forward and the two budgets that the house republicans all voted for. >> ryan's got two big choices here. he has typically been an ideological leader within the party for the last couple of years offering the budgets so he can really stick to his principles here. resist any tax increases and we're talking about rates because he has gotten behind boehner's increases to revenue. but a major point of contention for him the big thing he wants to see is entitlement reform. long-term structural reforms that are going to bring down what entitlements are costing this country every year. that's going to be his sort of ideological ground but if he's able to make a lot of progress on that issue, we could see him emerging

dave camp. he is not going anywhere either. where we are go to see significant committees where there will be turnover is the judiciary committee. he is term limited. he will make a bid for the science committee. he will find himself in competition. ralph hall, the chairman now is term limited. also the transportation and infrastructure committee. there are a few people who happen to have seniority but either have committee assignments or not looked upon as viable. we are passing the baton to a new generation. bill schuster is making a very strong play for the chairmanship of that. that will be just in time for congress to start to think about another reauthorization of the transportation programs, the highway bill, if you will. there is a short-term extension. they will need to revisit that in the 113th congress and representative shuster will have a strong claim to the gavel of that committee. >> i will take off two more. the homeland security committee. the congressman from long island also term limited. there is a three-way

dave camp will be term limited as chairman. does he run for the ways and means committee? it is a powerful committee. then again, will he run for president in 2016? there is a lot of potential for paul ryan, and john boehner will give him the boy. i think he stays -- the voice. i think he stays in congress until it least 2016. host: robert, south carolina. democratic caller. caller: everybody keeps talking about government cutbacks, but we do not cut back both houses. if we paid them for each session that they attend and make them pay their own retirement like the average worker, maybe we will start to see some results. they are getting away with too much. we treat them like royalty. host: gail russell chaddock, why don't you take that one? guest: a lot of the members feel that they have cut back a lot because of criticism and close looking at what the benefits are that members achieve. there have been suggestions from the left and right that if members do not produce a budget and do what they are supposed to do by law, you do not pay them. i think you find that there is g

dave camp will be term limited as chairman. does he run for the ways and means committee?t is a powerful committee. then again, will he run for president in 2016? there is a lot of potential for paul ryan, and john boehner will give him the boy. i think he stays -- the voice. i think he stays in congress until it least 2016. host: robert, south carolina. democratic caller. caller: everybody keeps talking about government cutbacks, but we do not cut back both houses. if we paid them for each session that they attend and make them pay their own retirement like the average worker, maybe we will start to see some results. they are getting away with too much. we treat them like royalty. host: gail russell chaddock, why don't you take that one? guest: a lot of the members feel that they have cut back a lot because of criticism and close looking at what the benefits are that members achieve. there have been suggestions from the left and right that if members do not produce a budget and do what they are supposed to do by law, you do not pay them. i think you find that there is gro

i saw comments from dave camp that this game that he keeps playing with, i've got the pen, i'm ready to sign it, it's just delaying. it's a nonstarter according to the people that stopped it the last intwo years. >> today is the first day that they'll all be meeting at the white house. and today is the first day that we don't know what's going to happen. >> the issues are so big in terms of entitlements. the fiscal cliff is one thin, but the issues are so -- the figure c fiscal abyss. $80 billion a year is what we're talking about. >> i listened to an interview with senator patty murray this morning on npr and she's ready to go over the cliff, but she sounded a little less aggressive today when she was saying we realize that it will be a blended mix of cuts to the entitlements along with higher taxes for wealthy people. and the npr anchor was trying to push her to say how far do we have to go. you keep saying an equal blend, is that 50/50. she said the president will set that blend. we'd like to see at least 40% or 50%, but it's up to the president. in the summer of 2011, it was 3 to

boehner, eric cantor, paul ryan and chairman of the house's tax writing ways and means committee dave camp. also lunch with republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and nancy pelosi. yesterday a number of high profile corporate leaders met with president obama at the white house, including lloyd blankfein. >> both sides have acknowledge there had is revenue concessions and entitlement concessions. in fact if you listen to it, again, i'm not a master of the political art here, but i would say if you have these point of views in a business context, i would say a deal would be in reach. >> among our guests this morning, we have ron johnson. at the white house today, president obama will host mitt romney for a private lunch. it's their first meeting since the election. and this his victory speech, obama promised to engage with romney and consider his ideas. >> a lot of people didn't think the lunch would ever happen. >> interesting if he's going to be talking about ideas, mitt romney's idea had been to reach some sort of a cap on it 00 mem deductions. >> he would have just extended th

for being spread around, i want to express my appreciation to my very good friend and colleague, dave camp, and kevin brady, who chairs the trade subcommittee. i've worked with them for many, many years on the important issue of trade liberalization and our pursuit of ensuring we can create good, american jobs. union and nonunion jobs by opening up these markets. and i also have to say that i know people like to malign the 87 newly elected republican members, this tea party class of crazy people, i mean, you read that, you hear that in the media on a regular basis and frankly i have to say, mr. speaker, the leadership that they have shown on this issue and on the issues of colombia, panama and south korea are very, very important issues. so, mr. speaker, let me just say i express my appreciation to the fact that 73 of mem signed a letter to the president saying that this needed to be brought forward. we want to work in a bipartisan way to make this happen. i urge support of this rule and tomorrow when we have the vote on pntr, a strong bipartisan support on behalf of the efforts of messrs.

dave camp and i are very close friends. i get along well with max baucus who is currently chairman of the finance committee, and i respect him as i respect all democrats who are willing to work with us, willing to try and do what's right for our country. let me just say this, i love this country. i work my guts out for it. and i'll never let you down, and i intend to do the very best i can in these next six years. >> moderator: mr. howell? howell: well, and i appreciate your great service, senator. we all recognize that. but, you know, just like michael jordan, john stockton and karl malone, there's a time to retire. i'm running for the u.s. senate to insure our children have the opportunity toly the american dream -- live the american dream. my life experience comes from the 34 years at the ibm corporation. i want you all to know that when i go back there to washington, i'll vote the three cs, my conscience, my constituents and the constitution. i will not be this partisan individual that is ruining our country today. gove

dave camp, for his long leadership on trade. this is by my count the seventh bipartisan trade measure to pass this house, and we hope to move to the president's desk, and i thank the ranking member, mr. levin, for his outstanding work on this as well. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from michigan, mr. levin. mr. levin: i now yield two minutes to the ranking member on trade, mr. mcdermott from the great state of washington. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from washington is recognized for three minutes. mr. mcdermott: madam speaker, i rise in support of this bill to grant permanent normal trade relations to russia and muldova. let's begin with russia. russia joined the w.t.o. this summer. congress does not have veto power on that. all we can do is decide here whether to allow u.s. businesses and workers to see the benefits of russia's w.t.o. obligations. will russia always honor these obligations on its own initiative? probably not. but russia's w.t.o. membership means

dave camp will be term limited as chairman. does he run for the ways and means committee? it is a powerful committee. then again, will he run for president in 2016? there is a lot of potential for paul ryan, and john boehner will give him the boy. -- voice. i think he stays -- the voice. i think he stays in congress until it least 2016. host: robert, south carolina. democratic caller. caller: everybody keeps talking about government cutbacks, but we do not cut back both houses. if we paid them for each session that they attend and make them pay their own retirement like the average worker, maybe we will start to see some results. they are getting away with too much. we treat them like royalty. host: gail russell chaddock, why don't you take that one? guest: a lot of the members feel that they have cut back a lot because of criticism and close looking at what the benefits are that members achieve. there have been suggestions from the left and right that if members do not produce a budget and do what they are supposed to do by law, you do not pay them. i think you find that

dave matthews? >> that's right. and we saw john cougar melon camp, katy perry, stevie wonder, jay-z will be appearing with the president as well. why are these big acts so important? well, the campaign believes, number one, it will bring people out to these events and energize them not only at the rallies but also to go back to their neighborhoods and encourage folks to go out and vote. that's the rb they have this star-studded lineup, to energize voters in the final hours of the campaign. >> dan lothian for us live in new hampshire. dan, thank you. one of our many correspondents all over the country for us this weekend. >>> with ohio being one of the key states, obama and romney are battling. ohio secretary of state john husted ordered experimental software patches to be installed in vote machines in 39 county. the software has the potential to affect more than 4 million registered voters including those in columbus and cleveland. the free press says the software was never certified or tested. cnn's don lemon spoke to husted last night and gave him

dave. it's very early and people are already they are out here camping out for black friday. here in pinole you can see there are tents out here. outdoor chairs, even a card table out here. it's very early in the morning. so so far there hasn't been much of a peep from the tents. there was one lady that came out to go to the bathroom. she is not quite ready to talk yet. employees here say this is the earliest shoppers have come out to make sure they are the first in line to take advantage of of course the holiday deals like big screen tvs and laptop computers. doors are supposed to open at midnight on friday. you can see she is going back into her tent right now. but you can actually be here earlier to get tickets i guess so you can can be the first to get some of these block buster deals. nation-wide black friday sales are expected to be down from last year. according to consumer research group big insight. 147million people will get up early for this big shopping day. now that is down five million shoppers from last year. we're going to be on again at 6:00 and hopefully by

flores is live now in walnut creek where some customers camped out overnight and there may be protests as well there, right? >> reporter: good morning, daveyes, the walnut creek chick-fil- a is frillly opened. it -- officially opened. it opened at 6:30 this morning. it looks like a camp ground more than anything. more than 100 people camped out here in tents, sleeping bags. the reason, the first 100 people when the doors open would get vouchers for a free chick-fil-a meal for an entire year, once a week. it wasn't bad. they had a deejay. they held a raffle and a ribbon- cutting ceremony and gave the people -- once the door opened, they were greeted with clears and this is video you will only see on "mornings on 2." >> 3, 2, 1! [ cheers ] >> reporter: this is the first chick-fil-a in the east bay. there's one in san jose and fairfield. many say it's worth it. >> yesterday, we got here at about 5:30. and then throughout the day there's games, fun, your neighbors, getting to know your neighbors. last night, there was a deejay, they served up food, kept us entertained. everybody was really friendly. >> oh, the chick-fil-a, there's a ton of ch

camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. dave: i am not thankful for being a new york jets fan. here is held in new york post puts it, but ugly for a particularly ugly performance of mark sanchez, here's mark sanchez running into his offensive linemen's back and fumbling. was returned for a touchdown on the next kickoff, another fumble return for a touchdown, just this one little 52 seconds section of the game the patriots scored three touchdowns, the patriots won 49-19. some fans are calling for head coach rex ryan to be fired. washington redskins quarterback robert griffin iii scored four touchdown passes for the second straight week. he is on a roll. redskins almost blew a huge lead but held on to beat the cowboys 38-31 and the most controversial play of the day care and in another game, houston, texas, running back scores on an 81 yard touchdown. he was clearly down but he coach jim swartz through the challenge flag. all players are automatically reviewed and he was given a penalty and play became not renewable. stupid rule a

time is going on, we're getting more recognition. >> dave: tell us about your story. >> i enlisted in the marine corps after high school i was in boot campst their life in iraq and bring them back home. >> dave: i can only imagine. >> alisyn: and rob, this book you put together is beautiful, portraits of service, looking through it the pictures are poignant and tell a story and tell us what you experienced while putting it together. >> this has been an awesome experience. my co-author andrew and i, british-born and lives in germany, is a part of the the patton foundation and we want to understand in depth what veterans go through. so the book itself was essentially designed to take a very short story and a beautiful picture so that people can become enthralled, engaged in the actual book in the story, but quickly go to the next one to give them more of a snapshot of what people go through. >> it's so compelling, now, again, here is the cover, but just one photo fling through it really caught me in the caption, sometimes words cannot describe what a soldier visiting a military cemetery is seeing and feeling and you really do capture that,

he wanted me to tell their stories, and then i heard from dave roller, in the back of the room here, served with the group after 371, 191 campactually had a very successful year at that outpost. it started horrifically. it started with the death of two brave men, ryan and dave commander captain b awe the the year went on, there was a lot of success reaching out to the afghans, and it was not only an outpost that was a story of failure. it was an outpost that for some time from 2007 to 2008 was a success. the more that the troops contacted me, told me the stories, the more it was a call r for me to write. it felt i was out of my slumber, covered the war in afghanistan from the comfort of the north lawn of the white house, and the debates about troop levels, 10,000, 40,000, numbers, really, in retrospect seemed cold, covering the fights between mcchrystal and president obama, but it was not until i embarked upon the project that i came to any understanding of what it is our brave troops, men like those on the panel go through, what they sacrificed for us, not just them, but their wives and their moms and their friends, and wha

dave benidetto. >> from the council tool company in north carolina, been around 126 years, hudson bay head. this is the original multitool. if you go in the woods, going camping these every day for her art. >> you want to give that -- >> swiss army knife. >> if you want to get this for something for christmas. if you've got a friend or neighbor that needs a good ax. >> everybody needs one. >> what else we got? >> whoa, easy there. >> i'm a huge fan of the bourbon. >> heilemann's holding it up. show them what they won. >> it's belle meade, you know who lives in belle meade? >> meacham. >> how is this compared to the moonshine? >> it's equally as good. smoother. >> mika, take a sip. is that not great stuff. >> it's good. >> this is -- >> 20% more rye than most bourbons. >> yeah, i'm good. go ahead. >> that stuff is great. if you got a drunk on the list who appreciates -- >> on "morning joe," what they do is eat the food and go -- >> it's great. it has an amazing history. two guys get together find out their grandfather had a distillery. great, great grandfather. they track it down, they revive it. and they use the original recipe and now we have belle meade bou