and -- is well known to the community as is dave chucker. they began in hayward and moved to berkley several years ago and decided it was time that the united states of america there needed to be a muslim liberal arts college, so students could have a choice of islamic environment, if they wished, although there are or lovely and worthy institutions that they can study. but it officers another option. and we are a school that has a program, and under-- bachelor program. they study the western tradition and the islamic tradition. and students are taking philosophy, ethics, micks, english and history and the traditional islamic subjects, islamic thought and how it developed through the ages. >> there are a lot of christian colleges around. and it's like that, only the focus is on islam. >> not only, though. we study we study from the western tradition as well. and that is very much a thought of our degree program. and our students resemble study comparing theology. and they get a broad understanding where it fits through the world and history.