>> yeah dave cody is a remarkable guy, and yes, i'll admit we are next-door neighbors and he's also ac guy in person. >> you can't argue with what he brings to the interview and certainly with the stock as you said. we'll watch that closely along with exxon also having a -- >> yes, down. >>> in the meantime, former microsoft ceo steve ballmer giving a talk to graduate students at the university of oxford's school of business. in between talking about lessons learned at microsoft and the best thing about retirement the ability to golf wherever he wants. he talked about the future positioning of the company in the marketplace. take a listen. >> empowering technology for all that ought to be a brand proposition that if we run the company correctly can last 20 30 50 years or more. i had a bunch of guys at microsoft, you know, we were going through angst five six years ago, oh, what do we want our brand to stand for and, you know, let's face it apple has had a good run recently and apple is, quote, cool, unquote. unquote-quote, your choice. >> i love steve. steve's an old friend. he was a