it is dave cotte's last year as ceo. i think he felt like the presentation didn't represent what he wanted to represent. is he talking up the stock? the last page of the presentation is basically that the stock is too cheap. so you could certainly say that was his goal, to get the stock up. i think what he really was trying to do is say, you know what, i should have talked about the positives, i was wrong. it's very rare that you see a ceo come on the air and say i was wrong. and that's what he said. and i believe him. >> all right. so jim feels more positive about the stock, and the stock in the afterhours session is reflect that go. jim, thank you for joining us, jim cramer with his market moving interview with the ceo of honeywell. what do you make of this, kind of unusual. >> very unusual. so unusual because you think, just leave those loan numbers out there, you've lowered the bar for yourself, either it doesn't happen and that's okay, or it does and then that's good, the street feels positive again. so he must feel