dave ebberly -- you haven't heard that name. he was the guy bouncing around and i found out he was the volunteer driver of the emergency vehicle that we had which was parked in a fire house at the other end of the city and get a call at 2:00 o'clock in the morning and get in that vehicle, and i later learned -- i'm sorry dave. i didn't understand at the time. it was manual transmission and manual brakes and i wish i could have hired him and he he is and somebody was smart enough to bring him with when they had sufficient funds. i was assisted by the young turks and the police department. i had deputy sheriffs come here on a first exercise and said "admiral we like what you're doing. we're off duty. can we provide security for you?" . that's the kind of stuff that happened. it was actually amazing. i had a guy came in here kind of pushy. he started giving me communications advice. somebody said "oh god you don't want to deal with that guy. he's a guy activist. a pain in the neck" and let me follow you something i lived my whole l