. >> my name is dave hilborne. dave hilborne. i have a general contractor in san francisco, principal constructor at licensed architect. i will be responding to three of the arguments made in opposition to this project for the appeal, not the project. the owners claim the plumbing and electrical must be cut off at the beginning of the project and throughout the duration. that is not true there are all kinds of ways to address that issue, like having a plumbing, electrical, etc. the other thing is a toxic dust concern, and that is controlled by the contractor who would be responsible for a beijing any toxic materials -- abating and a toxic materials. i understand they did not have any tests done. goo>> my thing is what is the td issue. >> they say the building cannot be ensured. we insure buildings all the time. >> we can hear from you now. >> i am going to speak briefly about what i have today. they were speaking about the family's plans for this building, and i want to quickly address exhibit 13, and he may have misread its. the