joining us now is former congressman dave jolly and secretary of state jason candor. congressman, i want to start with you. on our air you said republicans will never do anything on gun control. despite the pleas from that mother, despite the pleas from the kids from this high school, do you still believe republicans will do nothing? >> i do. and history has proven that. you can't listen to that mother and suggest that this issue is not about guns. it is. it can be about mental health and all these other issues, but it is good guns. is it ideology? is it influence from organizations like the nra, or just raw politics with both the the left and the right at play? in many cases, it is simply ideology, john. donald trump said yesterday to america's children, i'll do anything to protect you. he was not telling the truth. donald trump has said he opposes expanded background checks, opposes gun-free zones, opposes magazine restrictions. so the anger that that mother feels, that all of us feel across the country is that donald trump and politicians on the right are simply te

i'm joined by suessage page from "usa today" and congress man dave jolly. i just want to give a personal observations. i hang out with a lot of progressives. and i have -- and they complain. they're pretty good complainers and they can whine. in none of them said they lost the election because of the russians. any understood the campaign didn't reach the right voters. they know that. some of them will blame comey because he did something dramatic 11 days before the election he announced clinton still under investigation. of course, that hurt dramatically. take that off the table here. but trump, i'm told, almost like a mobster, if you're in his cabinet and say the word russian he goes ballistic. any mention of russian involvement he takes as a statement they gave it to him. >> a question of his legitimacy as president. while he's hailing some of these findings today as exoneration which is at least premature, what this does is show he can no longer call it a hoax. when he says did you see any russians in ohio or pennsylvania? the answer would be yes, now we

y appreciate you being on, dave jolly, thank you for your perspective, especially as a republican ando loves their party. >> thank you. >> once again, jorn what you're afraid of. governor scott, we know you're a fighter. we know you believe passionately. senator rubio, same thing. senator cruise, it's your hallmark, you're the great debater. why won't you answer the questions that need to be answered? why won't you discuss how we stop the school shootings? it's a simple question. people should insist you answer it. alisyn, back to you, please, in parkland, florida, where everybody's head and heart should be this morning. >> chris, thank you. i look at the school buses over my right shoulder. i can't imagine kids boarding those again and feeling safe. we have breaking news in parkland, florida. as you know, 17 people killed in the high school behind me in this shooting massacre. the 19-year-old suspect is expected to make his first court appearance today. we have cnn's dave briggs live at the courthouse, outside the broward county courthouse with more. dave, what are you learning? >> r

talk with david jolly who knows very well the workings of the house of representatives republican former congresswoman from florida he joins me from west des moines illinois iowa hey dave in iowa. everybody vacations in iowa and february larry you know that in iowa days. listen i it likely going to use this this visit to inform a book but i have also said very clearly that i intend to be part of a team of republicans that mouth a primary challenge to donald trump we have yet to determine who that candidate might be but i think it's important for republicans to find a place in the party that they can call home and prevent splitting off to a third party at the budget deal overall budget deal as going to go through. well you know certainly it has to because even when we have government shutdowns they can simply cannot last forever i think the numbers will get worked out we're seeing indications of that this week the bigger question larry though what is not worked out this week and will we'll see for another month is what happens on this comprehensive immigration debate will the president get funding for his wall and what will happen to the status of the dreamers those who

talk with david jolly who knows very well the workings of the house of representatives republican former congresswoman from florida he joins me from west des moines illinois iowa hey dave in iowa. everybody vacations in iowa and february larry you know that in iowa days. listen i it likely going to use this this visit to inform a book but i have also said very clearly that i intend to be part of a team of republicans that mouth a primary challenge to donald trump we have yet to determine who that candidate might be but i think it's important for republicans to find a place in the party that they can call home and prevent splitting off to a third party at the budget deal the overall budget deal as going to go through. well you know certainly it has to because even when we have government shutdowns they can simply cannot last forever i think the numbers will get worked out we're seeing indications of that this week the bigger question larry though what is not worked out this week and will we'll see for another month is what happens on this comprehensive immigration debate will the president get funding for his wall and what will happen to the status of the dreamers those

dave of the u.s. attorneys office was assigned to cross examine defense experts and put on the government's experts. >> the defense put on three psychiatrists. jolly, and martin orne. >> all these people had a specialty in brainwashing. lifton more than any of the others. it was dr. lifton whose focus was research with respect to prisoners of war who come out after months and years of confinement and express sympathy with their kapcaptors. the subject went out and took up arms and committed an act of violence against their own kind and they had to answer because it is the case. there are no such instances. her capture and confinement, the brutalization was couple with indoctrination. clearly, they intended to convert her to their way of thinking. no question about that. she had no volition. the dominance of her captors allowed for one excuse. she was involuntarity accepting of the point of view of her captors. >> the script for the defense had been written by dr. jolyon west. the reason she said that in jail, she was fearful of the presence of emily harris, who was right there in the same room. >> when we pointed out to dr. west that emily harris

dave bancroft of the u.s. attorneys office was assigned to cross-examine defense experts and put on the government's experts. >> the defense put on three psychiatrists. jolly >> the doctors took over all these people who had a specialty in brainwashing, lifton perhaps more than any of the others. >> with dr. lifton, whose focus was research with respect to prisoners of war who come out after months and years of confinement, and who express some sympathy with their captors. but cite me the case whereby virtue of what you call coercive persuasion, the subject went out and took up arms and committed an act of violence against their own kind. and they had to answer because it is the case. there are no such instances. >> her capture and confinement, her brutalization was coupled with indoctrination. clearly, they intended to convert her to their way of thinking. no question about that. she had no volition. the dominance of her captors allowed for only one excuse, that she was involuntarily accepting of the point of view of her captors. >> the script for the defense had been written by the defense by dr. jolyon west. we he would say things like, well, the reason