in the situation with the media in general in ukraine right now with investigative journalist dave lindorff let's get some people from him hi dave nice to see you today why do you think graham was targeted here as he was by the ukrainian side. well i think this is something that's happened in a lot of countries where you've got a war going on or civil war whatever the the. participants are loath to have independent journalists looking nosing around the battlefield and so what's happened in ukraine is is similar to what the u.s. would do with independent journalists in iraq during the war you know it's worth remembering that me us we don't allow anymore since vietnam for journalists to arrange freely over a war zone they may have to be embedded with troops and therefore approved and censored or the air or at the mercy of whatever the government wants to do to them people get to get all the way they get sent out of the country they have their permits taken away to be there it's fairly common but i think what different about this ukraine one is the way he was actually held hostage and had his