how can you reassure dave penman tonight that you're not attacking his members?with some fantastic civil servants over the last few months, particularly on mission delivery. but i think it is right that there is a challenge. you know, we do need to get out of whitehall and be speaking to the nations and regions. we do need to be doing things differently. it's a mission driven government. it's about working across departments to be the best that we possibly can. and that is a change. i'm going to read you a quote. "there are many brilliant people in the civil service and politics, but there are also some profound problems at the core of how the british state makes decisions." do you agree with that statement? look, i'm not going to get into sort of, you know, the statements. what i would say is i've worked with some brilliant civil servants in the last couple of months, but this is a mission driven government. it's something that's not been done before. and that involves whitehall getting behind that, getting out of silos and making sure that we are delivering, wh