go, but today perkins, dave, given the fact that the tensions are so high, hear me saying, you know, was, what was russia expected to take the beta? if indeed it was. but we'll keep talking about this and put in the after that because we don't know until maybe it's confirmed, or we've heard maybe what russia officially has to say, but it will ukraine officially as to say about it in the coming hours. but was there anything to be really gained here apart from making a headline as far as you craig is concerned. i wonder if they're not engaging in distractive activities so that they can build up the forces that they are going to need in place to rebel against the russian invasion. everyone knows, or the longest time vladimir putin as entertained vision of rebuilding the old soviet empire. and ukraine, definitely a big part of it. they used to call it the breadbasket of the soviet union were so much of the agriculture was done. and that, and georgia and many other countries are in line to be taken over by the russians, if they find no reason not to do it. and from where i sit here in the

while to discuss this issue further, i'm delighted to welcome on to the program, dave perkins, radio host on political unless good to see a dave i can and you know, i'm a simple man and they may be a rapidly developing world. but our fact checkers not by definition meant to check facts. well, yeah, and the use of the word fac, to for preferred information, whether true, what damage is out today to persons, reputation and something that, that happens. well, stossel is a very well known independent journalist for going on 40 years in america, and he never once been accused of the least bit of wrong doing or even a gender pursuit. stossel is the guy more in pursuit of faction. the truth than just about anyone on the, on the landscape of american media. and so he is really harmed by this false perception that he has produced an agenda piece instead of a fact untruth and journalism piece. in fact, he had 24000000 views of a video that facebook acted against because of this, and it went to statistically 0. that's a huge financial and reputational harm to stossel. he found in the end he had

i will come back to later appreciate coming up on the program, martin doza, dave perkins, martin summers and marco gases as well. thank you. maybe come back to late and get your thoughts on what's happened tonight. it's mid like 35 bhaskar time without international or monday if she just joined us as kevin o' in here are developing story that could have got bigger. it seems to have been averted to bow a problem. earlier on this evening, a ukrainian navy ship approaching the russian border. crimea church straight changed its course sir. what you, what i could call you the, you could call the last few minutes would run about 17 nautical miles away from that sensitive border. it, sir, apparently sailing away now officially back from the straight with ukraine's defense minister saying the ship didn't break an international laws. it was a former soviet repair vessel that didn't send a request, a party to enter russian waters and ignored demands while the russian border service changed. course. moscow said the ship posed a threat though to navigational safety. currently, some 80 civilian vesse

we spoke with social affairs broadcaster dave perkins. he thinks that facebook is desperately trying to avoid a barrage of further lawsuits. facebook has found themselves back against the wall and if they try to cling to the idea that they are fact checking in court, they're going to lose. and not only is it going to cost them big dime, but it can open the door to a flood of similar lawsuit in the near future, and it could be more than they can handle. i think they're hoping that by admitting that fact, jack just means opinion jack, when facebook puts a label on there, hoping to get out of this lawsuit without harm. and then just sink the story into the daily fountain of news events and hope people forget about it. in due time and in the, in the future, you'll see changes in their labels. they'll stop using the word fact and they'll come up with some other way to express it where they still exercise their dictatorship right to control speech on their platform. but it won't be a false presentation like the word fact jack is the u. k has st

and we've also got dave perkins or radio, some political analysts on the line. it was with us earlier on. all 3 guys i'm told out, look at that one is a modern technology are there with us. thanks for listening in. thanks for making the time. so who should we start? who wants to chip in 1st? it was it to a mistake or what is the provocation or who wants to give a thought or what? what's happened here? who 1st shall i go? because i haven't spoken. yes please. who is that 1st? smart in some hollow in high welcome to the transformations from the other fellows earlier on. i don't think it's a mistake. it's clearly not. it's brinkmann ship isn't it? of course, because of the incident you referred to earlier in 2018. the possibility of shooting. and you know, potential casualty is definitely there, so you don't have to go as far as breaking through the strait in order to create the force that's been, that's been created. and the question is, why are they doing it? and it's to do with the politics in ukraine and in the u. s. and within nato, even when they talk to one