i think he's seen enough of dave rayner kick. he barely makes the extra point.gals, with the timeouts to save time. >> cris: i think marvin feels the same way about overtime that you do. >> al: he may, in preseason especially. i never understood overtime in preseason. two weeks, we have one more preseason game. a lot of storylines around this one. we go to san francisco in two weeks where the 49ers, under mike singletary, an emerging team, play the vikings. by that time, a fortfight from now, we'll know more about the brett favre situation. his name may come up. >> cris: i would think. that's move day. if he's going to come back and play in the opener that's about the time he'll have to wander in. i don't think he'll play in the preseason game, maybe he will but that would be about decision-making time for the open. >> al: zhap will be our final preseason game before we start the regular season. >> cris: these cowboys players got some rough hair cuts from the veterans. that's sam young. the young man from notre dame. oh, boy. the offensive linemen paid a hef fro