jackie robinson broke the coloured barrier in business ball black people didn't just get one at-bat and we're done. jackie paved the way for billie-- willie and hank and skinny, jelly roll, gentleman dave, plunk, chino. >> jon: really, plunk. >> actual player, look him up, blackipedia. >> jon: blackipedia? is there a blackipedia? >> there is. >> jon: or there will be now. so wait, so you're say nothing latino president or a woman president. >> no, no. a black latino would be fine. >> jon: i imagine also a black woman. >> yeah but a strong black woman with a strong black woman name, you know, like kochbd leeza on quvenzhane, something that says yeah i'm the president but i could also be a perfume. (laughter) >> jon: so any ethnicity. >> as long as they're black. >> jon: for how long? larry, how long does the run of black presidents have to go? i mean do you think a democracy can survive with the same race dominating the white house for years on end over and over again? i mean is that-- the-- now that i hear that outloud i realize -- >> that's right. >> jon: i suppose white guys did have a pretty good run. >> good run? jon, you had 43 out of 44. >> jon: well, 43 and a half, really, i mea