. >> dave weigle, what do you say? politics of this whole seen day after primary?> this bill in particular, the small business bill is a perfect example of a piece of legislation that is for small business and irritates lobbyists and special interests because they didn't really deal with this really onerous provision of filing documents every time you make purchases over $600. i think the democrats have room to pass something that would be popular, not terribly effective, i suggest people read greg man cue on how effective these things would be, but if he is done with the small business bill, that is not that impressive. i would like to hear him talk more about the -- his version of the tax extension, the bush tax cuts which would get -- not deal with some of the higher-end tax cuts. the small business bill, not that impressive. >> mr. lipman, if you could. >>>ible to us the flawed logic of looking at small businesses as an engine of growth for jobs. >> okay. so the kaufman foundation for the last several years has sponsored and undertake on its own research to loo

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