>> daveed diggs: yeah, yeah.a, but it was miranda's writing that has made it a juggernaut. when you write, i mean, i have been told you write, and if it's sad, tears come to your eyes. you're in the moment, to express yourself. >> lin-manuel miranda: yeah. i think of acting and writing as pretty much the same thing. it's all about getting inside the skin of your characters, and seeing where they are, and knowing how they've grown up. you have to know all this, like, in your bones, what they've come up against, who they are. and then you just start talking as them. and you write until the rust comes out of the faucet and it's clear water. and you write down the clear water. >> rose: because the clear water is the perfection at the end of this. >> lin-manuel miranda: well, it's the stuff that feels true. >> chernow: the bullet hit him, actually, on the right side. >> rose: most people already know how the story of alexander hamilton ends. he died in 1804 in a duel with aaron burr in weehawkin, new jersey. by then,

. >> so, daveed diggs, who played jefferson and lafayette -- >> seth: yes. >> i saw that he was doinge doing tequila shots. like, anyone who came into his dressing room or their production office, he would have them do shots out the grammy. so i got to go on lin, leslie, and phillipa's last night. >> seth: wow. >> it was a big night. >> seth: big night. >> and i -- the cr backstage, we were on stage, and i met jane fonda that night. >> seth: wow. >> and made friends with troy gairty, and his wife was like, "you met my mother-in-law?" and i was like, "oh, have i met j -- no, i haven't met jane fonda before." [ light laughter ] so we were just chatting with people, and i saw daveed, and i' met daveed before, and i kind of know him. so i went up to him. i said, "you were great as always." the only thing i regret from my run -- "my run" -- of "hamilton." [ laughter ] because i felt like i was a part of it, was that i didn't get to do shots out the grammy. he was like, "oh, let's go do that nonsense." [ laughter ] and so we went backstage and did it. >> seth: i actually have video. this is